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Old 04-16-2022, 11:42 AM   #1
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Springfield pedestal question

Those of you who have the Springfield pedestal installed, I have a couple of questions. Does the table top slide and rotate? Is that because ETI or you installed something between the pedestal and the table top?

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The table top can still do anything that it would do with the double factory tubes. ETI supplied my table uninstalled and I added a Springfield. The table comes with the factory slides for side-to-side movement and you can rotate the table top a bit.

Others have added, I believe, the Dicor 4 way slide allowing for both side-to-side and front to back movement.

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Old 04-16-2022, 11:55 AM   #3
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The table top retains the usual Escape side to side sliding mechanism. You also get the ability to rotate the table top when the clamp(s) on the pedestal are not tightened. The only thing that is less than ideal I would say, is that the table can't easily be removed, say if you needed prolonged access to service equipment in a bench seat or spend a long time working in an overhead compartment...

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Those of you who have the Springfield pedestal installed, I have a couple of questions. Does the table top slide and rotate? Is that because ETI or you installed something between the pedestal and the table top?

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Yes, the table top slides and rotates. It slides because Escape installs a side to side slide as standard equipment. It rotates because when the top lever on the Springfield mount is in the open position the piston will rotate. The bottom piston is fixed, but, the top one allows rotation when unlocked.
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The ability of the top to rotate depends on how it's installed. If the table top is close to the wall then the ability to rotate is reduced. I installed mine so I could get a partial rotation for easier locker access.

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The ability of the top to rotate depends on how it's installed. If the table top is close to the wall then the ability to rotate is reduced. I installed mine so I could get a partial rotation for easier locker access.
If you slide the top to one side then rotate, it needs almost no clearance from the wall. As the corner neaest the center doesn't really move towards the wall, and the corner furthest from the center moves away from the wall
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We're getting the Springfield mount and I want to replace the stock table with something smaller. Can you attach a wooden tabletop directly to the Springfield without using the slider?
If I want to use the slider, what is the minimum table size I'd need for it? (Slider dimensions?)
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We're getting the Springfield mount and I want to replace the stock table with something smaller. Can you attach a wooden tabletop directly to the Springfield without using the slider?
Yes, the top plate of the Springfield Pedestal that screws into the tabletop is just slightly over 1' X 1'(~12.5" X ~12.5").

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If I want to use the slider, what is the minimum table size I'd need for it? (Slider dimensions?)
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Minimum size with the existing slide tracks would be about 26" X 30".
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a smaller tabletop won't work to convert the dinette to a 2nd bed... I've used ours (E21 classic) several times for guests...
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a smaller tabletop won't work to convert the dinette to a 2nd bed... I've used ours (E21 classic) several times for guests...
I had a cabinet shop cut down a piece of baltic birch to be 24" deep X 34" wide. To do this right as the table- at least in a Gen 1 trailer is not square on the sides- I brought in my original table to use as a template. Has worked great since 2016 for a bed/lounge as well as dinette table.

The one trick left is using the same edge rubber/vinyl edge band as is on the rest of the counter tops. So that needs to be factored in when sizing the width.

The two 12" filler board cushions work perfect in that space on the table and fit in front of the back bench bottom cushion on the U-dinette.

Here is an old thread on this subject:

https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...ble-11865.html
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If you build a new table top and intend to install the vinyl edge on it, you will see by looking at what you have now that the vinyl is a modified “T” shape with the very short center edge pressed into a slot in the edge of the woodenly table top. You may also note that the vinyl is not completely symmetrical with one “half” being slightly wider than the other. So if you have a router with a slot cutter bit to put the groove in the table edge, you will need to orient your cut and vinyl so that when it’s pressed in, the edge of the vinyl does not extend above the table top. If you don’t get it just right and it ends up being too tall, (proud) you can carefully shave it down to the level of the Formica top, if that’s what you are using, with a single edge razor blade.
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