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Old 12-22-2014, 06:27 PM   #41
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So when and where exactly is the Annual Escape Owners Beer Summit (EOBS)?
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:35 PM   #42
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That would be my excellent choice; it was my lunch at the James Joyce Irish Pub last time we were in Calgary.
This would be a true barley sandwich, layered like that. Great choice for a filling lunch.
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That makes sense, and I'll have to do that... but Black&Tan pre-mixed is a common product.
I hadn't seen them, but I avoid any mixed drinks in cans or bottles, as the only ones I have tried are really, really lame compared to having it mixed properly, and fresh.
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So when and where exactly is the Annual Escape Owners Beer Summit (EOBS)?
It is part of the Annual Escape Rally. You gotta come check it out.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:09 PM   #44
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Hi: C&G in FL... I sure hope someone carry's Yuengling "Black and Tan" down there!!! Alf Yuengling America's Oldest Brewery | beer | merchandise | club | TV
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Hi Alf. Both of the common grocery chains (Winn Dixie, Publix) carry Black and Tan as well as Yuengling lager. Actually, Yuengling has a brewery in Tampa, which at one time belonged to Pabst. When you stop by, we will definitely consume a few!
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This would be a true barley sandwich, layered like that. Great choice for a filling lunch.


I hadn't seen them, but I avoid any mixed drinks in cans or bottles, as the only ones I have tried are really, really lame compared to having it mixed properly, and fresh.
Yuengling Black and Tan is actually a mixture of their premium beer and their Porter. It is dark in color with a somewhat dark beer taste. I just can't see diluting a Porter. While I tend to buy craft beers or specialty beers, back in the early 80s when I lived in the land of winter, I was into home brewing and the products I brewed were far superior to anything available commercially. Now that I am in Florida and not confined to the house 7 months out of the year, I spend my time pursuing outdoor activities.
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Actually Jim it sounds like the EOBS will have to be at the in the planning stages first escape Midwest rally which will likely be in WI. We shall have to put Eric in charge of the beer for the event!
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:43 PM   #47
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We do Craft Beer Exchanges at all the gatherings in Oregon. And it IS an opener event
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There has always been a beer exchange at the Escape Rally too. Could be organized a bit better, but still is fun, especially drinking the beers.
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There has always been a beer exchange at the Escape Rally too. Could be organized a bit better, but still is fun, especially drinking the beers.
At my first beer exchange, I was under the impression that we would gather and try various beers. Instead it was like the running of the bulls, everybody grabbing beers, trying to avoid the Bud Lime and then taking their stash back to their trailer.
Anybody know how to run a civilized beer exchange?
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:59 PM   #50
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There has always been a beer exchange at the Escape Rally too. Could be organized a bit better, but still is fun, especially drinking the beers.
Note to self: upon receiving delivery of Escape 17 next summer, immediately stock with contingency supplies, those being copious amounts of favorite brew, for distribution to needy Escapees.
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At my second beer exchange I just gave up. Brought six beers for me and six for the exchange, and my camera to shoot pix.
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:41 PM   #52
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At my first beer exchange, I was under the impression that we would gather and try various beers. Instead it was like the running of the bulls, everybody grabbing beers, trying to avoid the Bud Lime and then taking their stash back to their trailer.
Anybody know how to run a civilized beer exchange?
Yup. My suggestion:

- Everyone participating must contribute at least a 6 pack, and no bargain basement Schlitz, Coors, PBR, Budweiser, Keystone, etc. allowed.

- Everyone participating draws a number from the hat.

- People pick by the order of the draw.

- People get to fill a 6 pack with up to TWO bottles each of the beer of their choice. If they bring two six packs, they can fill two, but each 6 pack they bring must be different brands.

- Anyone can swap with anyone else if they agree and don't like their choices.

- In the end, each participant will have at least one 6 pack of GOOD beer, and at least 3 different labels to try. Done!
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:34 AM   #53
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Yep, Robert is running the beer exchange next year.

That is pretty much what my thoughts were, except not more than one of any beer.

I have done similar exchanges, and when you draw numbers, you run through 1 to ?, then reverse the order with the next round.

One of the issues faced, is that half of the people show up with their beer after the exchange starts, so this messes things up too.

No real worries though, as everyone gets to try something different, and share a beer they like. All is good.
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Old 12-23-2014, 04:31 PM   #54
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Yup. My suggestion:

- Everyone participating must contribute at least a 6 pack, and no bargain basement Schlitz, Coors, PBR, Budweiser, Keystone, etc. allowed.

- Everyone participating draws a number from the hat.

- People pick by the order of the draw.

- People get to fill a 6 pack with up to TWO bottles each of the beer of their choice. If they bring two six packs, they can fill two, but each 6 pack they bring must be different brands.

- Anyone can swap with anyone else if they agree and don't like their choices.

- In the end, each participant will have at least one 6 pack of GOOD beer, and at least 3 different labels to try. Done!
Great idea Robert. I would like to see this scheduled by the organizer of every egg event. Scamp Camp in Sebring typically starts with a chili dump, but just think, chili AND good beer!
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Old 12-23-2014, 04:46 PM   #55
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Scamp Camp in Sebring typically starts with a chili dump, but just think, chili AND good beer!
We would definitely have no shortage of Natural Gas Carl. Too bad the trailers use propane!
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I don't know how civilized it is, but at the NOGs... it starts with CRAFT beer. We don't put them out on a table. You carry your six pack of craft beer around in the group, and exchange one bottle for another. It gets people interacting with one another instead of acting like storm troopers swarming a table. Only lasts about 5-7 minutes tops, then everyone really starts talking. Surprisingly people like to talk about the craft beer they brought to exchange. But without knowing who brought it... how would you know who to talk to?
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I don't know how civilized it is, but at the NOGs... it starts with CRAFT beer. We don't put them out on a table. You carry your six pack of craft beer around in the group, and exchange one bottle for another. It gets people interacting with one another instead of acting like storm troopers swarming a table. Only lasts about 5-7 minutes tops, then everyone really starts talking. Surprisingly people like to talk about the craft beer they brought to exchange. But without knowing who brought it... how would you know who to talk to?
Good point. If the point is to be social and not just 'fair', your method would probably work better.
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I don't know how civilized it is, but at the NOGs... it starts with CRAFT beer. We don't put them out on a table. You carry your six pack of craft beer around in the group, and exchange one bottle for another. It gets people interacting with one another instead of acting like storm troopers swarming a table. Only lasts about 5-7 minutes tops, then everyone really starts talking. Surprisingly people like to talk about the craft beer they brought to exchange. But without knowing who brought it... how would you know who to talk to?
That makes sense to me. With all the craft breweries, the story around the microbrewery as well as the location made is a great opener for conversation.
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I like the NOG model. It doesn't require anybody to police it and promotes interaction.
I nominate Robert and Donna to discuss with Tammy at the rally.

Actually, needs to be done prior to the rally since Tammy provides an agenda ahead of the rally.
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I've already told Tammy... she can use me and abuse me during the rally. Call me a sherpa, slave or chief herder of cats! Half the fun of gatherings, is helping! I'm not interested in stepping on toes or traditions. The NOGS and OG.. we just do craft beer exchanges differently.

I like to think, craft beer exchanges started at gatherings... by ME! For those that don't know the history how it started at the Oregon Gathering ten years ago. Talk to me at the Escape Rally.... the reason is a hoot!
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