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Old 09-23-2019, 12:05 PM   #41
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There is a forum member that rebuilds and sells damaged Escapes. He purchases them from insurance companies, repairs the unit and sells them, reasonably cheap, maybe 25% less than used.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:21 PM   #42
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The lug nut locks can easily be defeated and you don’t even need power tools. I won’t go into how but for those interested not hard to find. Like I’ve previously stated I use the Fort Knox hitch lock but that’s it. I don’t for 1 second believe that it will stop a determined thief, just the opportunistic variety.�� Almost forgot, I do use another pad lock on my propane tanks, but that’s another subject.

Been wondering how to secure those tanks
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:27 PM   #43
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The lug nut locks can easily be defeated and you donít even need power tools. I wonít go into how but for those interested not hard to find. Like Iíve previously stated I use the Fort Knox hitch lock but thatís it. I donít for 1 second believe that it will stop a determined thief, just the opportunistic variety.�� Almost forgot, I do use another pad lock on my propane tanks, but thatís another subject.[/QUOTE


Been wondering how to secure those tanks
I run a chain thru the tank handles and below. Probably causes me more trouble than it would a thief.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:40 PM   #44
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Anyone know of any insurance claims for a stolen Escape? (or wrecked) I guessing Insurance companies have no clue what an escape is worth.

Any agents I've ever dealt with on anything always start with "Well, the book says....."

We in any books?
My trailer is insured ACV, actual cash value stated as $33k. I believe the agent said I could do this for the first 5 years. The amount was determined by what I paid for it. The trailer is attached to my auto insurance and cost around $200.
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Anyone know of any insurance claims for a stolen Escape? (or wrecked) I guessing Insurance companies have no clue what an escape is worth.

Any agents I've ever dealt with on anything always start with "Well, the book says....."

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My trailer is insured ACV, actual cash value stated as $33k. I believe the agent said I could do this for the first 5 years. The amount was determined by what I paid for it. The trailer is attached to my auto insurance and cost around $200.
I'm with Farmers(big surprise). My agent had never heard of an Escape. He said "not to worry, I'll take care of you".

The check is in the mail too. Yeah, right!
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:51 PM   #46
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Get it in writing, my policy specifically states $33k as value ��
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:55 PM   #47
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Got a response from Dave at ETI concerning the lug nut size should anyone have an interest.


ďThe wheel studs are 1/2" x 20. ď confirmed that is the size for all current models.

https://www.amazon.com/McGard-24538-...s%2C192&sr=8-4


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Been wondering how to secure those tanks

Here's a picture, using existing safety chains and a padlock.
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Here's a picture, using existing safety chains and a padlock.
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Get it in writing, my policy specifically states $33k as value ��
I was trying to be humorous. I do trust my agent. Been with the same agency since my grandfathers time.
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Here's a picture, using existing safety chains and a padlock.
Think someone stole your lock🤨
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Old 09-23-2019, 01:11 PM   #52
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I have been using a cast Master Lock purchased from Amazon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0000AXRMU/r. Much thicker than a standard padlock. It would take time for a determined thief with a portable metal grinder to cut through it. I also lock-down the chains should someone try to haul it away that way. Needless to say, I don't leave it unattended in remote areas should I return to find it has been "stripped" clean. I also use a set of wheel locks. Just one more deterrent.
OK - withdrawing my recommendation for the Master Lock. I found a video demonstrating the lock easily defeated with just a crowbar: https://ftknoxlocks.godaddysites.com...tor-lock-fails.
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Think someone stole your lock🤨

"For demonstration purposes only".
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Thanks, Ed!
You're welcomed.
Plus Dave just confirmed that the stud that holds the spare is the same size.
The five lock kit from McGard will do the job.

Hopefully, and with any kind of luck, all tires will be just where we want them when they are needed.

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I have mentioed this on another security thread. A great source of lock dependabilty information is the YouTube channel: "lockpickinglawyer". Another very good info source is "bosnianbill"
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:14 PM   #56
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My car has one locking lug nut on each wheel.
Anyone use them on their trailer? Especially the spare?
No. I have even taken them off of my van and car (replacing them with standard nuts) to reduce the hassle of dealing with them and the risk of losing the key.

If the intention is to make a wheel "boot" lock effective by preventing the removal of the wheel complete with lock, there are versions which cover the wheel nuts.
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Old 09-23-2019, 03:20 PM   #57
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I just e-mailed David at ETI to ask him what the threads on the wheels were.
1/2"-20 is the nearly universal thread for wheel studs in this capacity range of trailer axles, including all Escapes. That's 1/2" diameter (the threads, not the hex of the nut), 20 threads per inch (but that's the only common 1/2" wheel stud/nut thread anyway). There is no thread in the wheels, of course; they have conical seats for the nuts.
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About 3 seconds to cut the cable. It looked tough, but a battery operated grinder with a metal zip disk melted through it.

They just used something heavy to bust the door window out to access inside to steal stuff on my daughter's and my trailer. Coulda had the best hitch lock and it would have done nothing.
I guess this is why having multiple levels of security along with a good insurance policy is probably the best advice. Nothing is fool proof. At least this is what I have surmised from this little thread. Thanks everybody.

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If the intention is to make a wheel "boot" lock effective by preventing the removal of the wheel complete with lock, there are versions which cover the wheel nuts.
That is the intent since I already own the 'boot' style that simply clamps around the tire.Actually, the easy way to defeat my lock is with a battery powered grinder and metal cutting wheel. Just cut through it and drive off. Why leave behind a tire that could be traded for a little pot?

By choice, often we are camped by ourselves in the middle of nowhere making us especially easy targets for the low-life of the world.
My hope is to throw enough obstacles in their way to encourage them to look for a softer target. I know; what a naive optimist.

Fear of the low-life will not a force us to abandon things we enjoy. As soon as decent folks do that, the low-life wins.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:44 AM   #60
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The lug nut locks can easily be defeated and you donít even need power tools. I wonít go into how but for those interested not hard to find. Like Iíve previously stated I use the Fort Knox hitch lock but thatís it. I donít for 1 second believe that it will stop a determined thief, just the opportunistic variety.🤔 Almost forgot, I do use another pad lock on my propane tanks, but thatís another subject.
I was imprecise. What I meant was a lock similar to this. https://www.amazon.com/Hurbo-Adjusta...056&hvpos=1o18 not a simple lock for a lug. Have you seen evidence that this type of lock can be defeated short of a power tool? I believe as others have stated, that any lock can be defeated with enough time and technology.
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