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12-11-2019, 04:04 PM
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#501
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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LOL, the eternabond is rated for approx 18 years and I believe them.
The Lensun panels Jim found appear to be weathering the best I've seen and I'd guess 7-10 years depending on environment. The other type plastic backed panels about 3 years from what I've seen, but again depends on environment.
With your trailer cover, Ron, you may get a bit longer out of them. I like your hypodermic needle trick, but I'm not sure it will be effective on the eternabond. It would be interesting to know if that works.
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12-11-2019, 04:33 PM
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#502
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,809
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I hope that I don't have to use it anytime soon.
Ron
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12-11-2019, 05:29 PM
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#503
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
From I read, that Eternabond tape is not double sided. So that means to attach a flexible panel to my roof I got to run it around the panel perimeter?
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Correct. Eternabond tape is for sealing over the edge of a flange (such as a vent) which is laid on a RV surface (typically the roof). The flange is normally screwed or occasionally bonded to the roof, and sealed by either the adhesive or a sealant under the flange; the Eternabond is not intended to fasten the flange, only as a secondary seal.
The alternative is to attach the panel to the roof with double-sided tape, then seal the edges with a caulk-sealant. I would probably want some kind of tape at least over the leading (front) edge, to keep it from getting peeled up.
I used Eternabond to re-seal the one failed roof seal on a large fifth-wheel trailer with a rubber roof, which was the leading and upper (due to the roof slope, like an Escape 5.0 or 5.0TA) edge of a skylight. It has worked fine for more than a decade. I wouldn't want to remove it.
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12-11-2019, 05:32 PM
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#504
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
As usual with the reviews there were some negative ones that claimed that it didn't stick worth a darn. After using it I wonder if they realized that you had to peel off the plastic on the adhesive. I don't think anyone who'd used it properly would say that it doesn't stick.
Ron
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I would think many use it on rubber roofs, if you don't prep the surface as the instructions call for it doesn't stick all that well, then you get to find out how hard it is to remove.
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12-11-2019, 05:43 PM
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#505
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Blame that on Amazon. Did not see it offered in other than black. OH.. just found it in white on eBay, 4" x 20 ft roll. Better.
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2 in is all you need . Pat
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12-12-2019, 04:58 PM
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#506
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,809
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I've found that any flat surface sort of accumulates "stuff". Like my table saw, when I go to use it sometimes I have to put all the stuff that's been conveniently placed there away in its' proper spot.
So I like a mini shelf of sorts near the table where all the misc. stuff that seems to accumulate on the table can be put off the table surface.
So I made this nice little unit. Since there's all this talk now about lighter colors I thought that I'd go with white and natural wood.
Just kidding of course. I like to do quick mock-ups of stuff like this. Just takes a few minutes and shows up things like unexpected interactions and not quite the right dimension etc. I used to use mainly 1/8" hardboard or cardboard. A neighbor was throwing out an Ikea wardrobe and I very kindly (while viewing salvage options ) to dispose of it. The back looks like 1/8" melamine but it's actually more like a dense cardboard, perfect for mock-ups.
OK, now the waiting begins. When M. goes in and looks at it I'll be able to tell instantly whether it's a go or go back to the drawing board.
Ron
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12-12-2019, 05:10 PM
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#507
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
I've found that any flat surface sort of accumulates "stuff". Like my table saw, when I go to use it sometimes I have to put all the stuff that's been conveniently placed there away in its' proper spot.
So I like a mini shelf of sorts near the table where all the misc. stuff that seems to accumulate on the table can be put off the table surface.
So I made this nice little unit. Since there's all this talk now about lighter colors I thought that I'd go with white and natural wood.
Just kidding of course. I like to do quick mock-ups of stuff like this. Just takes a few minutes and shows up things like unexpected interactions and not quite the right dimension etc. I used to use mainly 1/8" hardboard or cardboard. A neighbor was throwing out an Ikea wardrobe and I very kindly (while viewing salvage options ) to dispose of it. The back looks like 1/8" melamine but it's actually more like a dense cardboard, perfect for mock-ups.
OK, now the waiting begins. When M. goes in and looks at it I'll be able to tell instantly whether it's a go or go back to the drawing board.
Ron
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Love Ikea . Was there yesterday and one of the first places I head to is the marked down returns . Can sometimes find lots of good deals especially on wood . Pat
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12-14-2019, 06:56 PM
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#508
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
I was able to install 3 60 watt panels on our 19 . All panels lay flat no bending down roof . One front , one rear , and one middle behind ac . Pat
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Found a few pictures of our Lensun panels solar installation on our !9 . Pat
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12-14-2019, 07:02 PM
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#509
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I like that a/c cover, where did you find it?
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-16-2019, 04:17 PM
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#510
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,809
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Installed a shelf by the dinette table. I find that little things, but objects that we use a lot, start cluttering up the table top. So I like to find them a home off the table.
Good project to use my underused milling machine. I was going to use a 1" cutter on the cutouts but M. asked if I could make a smaller radius corners "to match the window" OK, no problem. If thats all it takes to make her happy.
Mod. #25 on the new trailer, done.
Ron
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12-16-2019, 04:32 PM
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#511
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Installed a shelf by the dinette table. I find that little things, but objects that we use a lot, start cluttering up the table top. So I like to find them a home off the table.
Good project to use my underused milling machine. I was going to use a 1" cutter on the cutouts but M. asked if I could make a smaller radius corners "to match the window" OK, no problem. If thats all it takes to make her happy.
Mod. #25 on the new trailer, done.
Ron
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Been thinking to do same ! Yours looks great ! Pat
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12-16-2019, 05:24 PM
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#512
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Ron, what is that blue and black item under your new shelf?
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-16-2019, 05:38 PM
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#513
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,809
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An inexpensive solar controller with two USB outlets.
Ron
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12-16-2019, 06:33 PM
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#514
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Been thinking to do same ! Yours looks great ! Pat
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How long and wide is yours ? Pat
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12-16-2019, 07:24 PM
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#515
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Slightly better photo.
It's 29 1/2" wide x 2 1/2" high x 3 1/2" deep. The width was based on our table size which is 34 1/2" wide. I wanted to keep it in from the edges a bit.
Ron
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12-16-2019, 07:52 PM
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#516
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Slightly better photo.
It's 29 1/2" wide x 2 1/2" high x 3 1/2" deep. The width was based on our table size which is 34 1/2" wide. I wanted to keep it in from the edges a bit.
Ron
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Thanks Ron it looks like you used a couple of aluminum straps to attach to table ? I think I will need to attach to window frame because of pups ,the table goes into bed mode every night . We have a nylon play pen they sleep together in after table to down . Pat
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12-16-2019, 08:21 PM
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#517
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Hattiesburg, Mississippi
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 56
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Ron, Love the shelf! How is it attached?
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12-16-2019, 08:27 PM
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#518
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,809
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An aluminum "U" shape, screws to underside of table and moves with the table.
I had some leftover scraps of the wall vinyl and wrapped the aluminum with that which is why they're white.
Ron
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12-16-2019, 11:08 PM
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#519
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Trailer: sold Airstream\Casita -2019 21' Escape
Posts: 190
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Actually did this project project last week while camping since wife wanted a backsplash. Since this task was a PIA, only did one row which is good enough.
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12-16-2019, 11:41 PM
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#520
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Northern California, California
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21
Posts: 762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Slightly better photo.
It's 29 1/2" wide x 2 1/2" high x 3 1/2" deep. The width was based on our table size which is 34 1/2" wide. I wanted to keep it in from the edges a bit.
Ron
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Very nice little shelf, Ron! So nice to have a place for all those things...off the big table.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jumboscott
Actually did this project project last week while camping since wife wanted a backsplash. Since this task was a PIA, only did one row which is good enough.
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Love your backsplash, Jumboscott. Perfect match with your counter top! - Bea
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