What is your Escape getting for Christmas?

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

Tomorrow never comes.

Just sayin' it will look the same no matter when photos are released. I just don't think it is my place to do it.

It does look great, like I said the difference to the past model is similar to the changes in the other 3 models. The mould makers did a really good job with the transition of the loft to the trailer, I think that seems to have a bit cleaner lines.

It is safe to say, that I am now finally getting excited about getting my trailer. Heck, it has only been a 1 1/2 year wait so far.

I've got to turn my build sheet in by January 22nd. When are you scheduled to pick yours up? Sure like to see the new model before I turn my papers in. Might lurk around ETI the day you show up.

[NW Cat Owner]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

I've got to turn my build sheet in by January 22nd. When are you scheduled to pick yours up? Sure like to see the new model before I turn my papers in. Might lurk around ETI the day you show up.

I would think ETI would put the first one out as a demo model so others can see it for when they order. I'd ask ETI about that. I know I was able to coordinate that with them when they brought out the 2nd Gen 17, 19 and 21. I think I was there within days of each going out on the lot as a demo model.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

I've got to turn my build sheet in by January 22nd. When are you scheduled to pick yours up? Sure like to see the new model before I turn my papers in. Might lurk around ETI the day you show up.

I am picking up on Jan 26. I would imagine that photos will be out fairly soon.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by NW Cat Owner

I would think ETI would put the first one out as a demo model so others can see it for when they order.

I believe the first few are for customers, as they have a backlog of those that opted out of the 2016 in favour of the 2017.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by padlin

FWIW, my 3.5L EB mpg went from 17-18 non towing drive around town to 14 the last month or two. Don't know how much of that is winter gas or just that the engine takes more juice when it gets cold.

I don't think much of it is winter gas; even 10% alcohol versus 0% alcohol typically makes only a 3% or so difference in fuel consumption... there is less energy in the mix with alcohol, but not much, and the engine usually runs a bit more efficiently with it. Bob, I think you're on the right track with winter operating conditions being the problem.

[SFDavis50]

I've noticed with our hybrid Sonata that the engine runs a lot more whenever the heater is on. The engine shuts off a lot when decelerating and going downhill but it still has to keep the water warm to operate the heater so it stays on in winter weather. I have really noticed it coming down the mountain from the Eisenhower Tunnel into Idaho Springs, CO. In warm weather with no heat or A/C on the engine won't turn on at all. It runs almost constantly in very cold winter weather with the heater operating.

[cpaharley2008]

It was really nice of NW Cat to post all those pictures of the new 19 and 21 models, it really helped the other members make some critical decisions. If you have the pictures Jim, why not post them, I can see no harm from an early Xmas present for others.

[Cslcs25]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Where did you find on of those, they stopped making the TraVaSak

Here is their website:

RVSuperbag.com

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

It was really nice of NW Cat to post all those pictures of the new 19 and 21 models, it really helped the other members make some critical decisions. If you have the pictures Jim, why not post them, I can see no harm from an early Xmas present for others.

I'm not NW Cat. Out of respect for Escape, I will give them the option to reveal things.

Besides, there is absolutely nothing that would make any difference to folks ordering and making decisions. All the features are exactly the same as other models, and besides, there are no "critical decisions" that could be made by looking at photos anyway.

Have patience.....

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I'm not NW Cat. Out of respect for Escape, I will give them the option to reveal things.

Besides, there is absolutely nothing that would make any difference to folks ordering and making decisions. All the features are exactly the same as other models, and besides, there are no "critical decisions" that could be made by looking at photos anyway.

Have patience.....

Hi: Jim Bennett... A lump of coal for your stocking too? Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by escape artist

Hi: Jim Bennett... A lump of coal for your stocking too? Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

Yeah, I actually got that one year as a kid. My parents were holding back, but did want to send a message.

I like the suggestion for parents to wrap empty boxes, and whenever a kid misbehaves, throw one on the fire. Yep I's still nasty.

[Zardoz]

Nah, J.B. Is right on this issue. Usurping ETI's prerogative to unveil their latest creation, of which I am sure they are very proud, would be like showing pictures of a bride's wedding dress before the wedding. Nobody is more anxious to see the new 5.0, but we shouldn't undermine the friends we're looking to to give us so many good times ahead. Patience, grasshoppers ...

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

Nah, J.B. Is right on this issue. Usurping ETI's prerogative to unveil their latest creation, of which I am sure they are very proud, would be like showing pictures of a bride's wedding dress before the wedding. Nobody is more anxious to see the new 5.0, but we shouldn't undermine the friends we're looking to to give us so many good times ahead. Patience, grasshoppers ...

Hi: Zardoz... Patience... is a virtue... and I'm not virtuous!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[cpaharley2008]

Well I guess there is no point in posting your build photos nor any modifications
photo's for other member's information, that is the whole purpose of this forum to help others not necessarily for ETI benefit. NW Cat's photos helped me in my decision making between models, and making others wait for the factory to post pictures may cause some to go elsewhere and be detrimental to Escape. Unless you were specifically told not to, you have that choice to make Jim, aka as Santa.

[Kountrykamper]

Maybe Rease and Tammy is going to play Santa.

[NW Cat Owner]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Well I guess there is no point in posting your build photos nor any modifications
photos for other member's information, that is the whole purpose of this forum to help others not necessarily for ETI benefit. NW Cat's photos helped me in my decision making between models, and making others wait for the factory to post pictures may cause some to go elsewhere and be detrimental to Escape. Unless you were specifically told not to, you have that choice to make Jim, aka as Santa.

Hey, great to know they helped in your decision making! I wasn't aware of that.

Most of the photos I posted were of trailers on the lot as demos. Although a few weren't as they were trailers in progress (like without the insides in place).

I would think that if the first few trailers are going to customers, wouldn't they be in production right now? And wouldn't those owners be getting photos of them from ETI? I guess those owners aren't on this forum - bummer.

I think if folks are waiting for ETI to post them, they're in for a long wait. Yes, they've updated some of the photos on their site, but they still show some 1st Gen photos for the 17A and the 21. Not sure on the 19. And just outside photos of the 17B. Least they finally took off the bathroom photo(s) for the 17A. And I believe those new photos were added long after I posted what I did to this forum.

But, if Jim B doesn't wanna post 'em, nothing any of us can do about it. I just know if I had a 2nd Gen 5.0TA on order, I'd be rather anxious to see photos. Or, if like you say, I was contemplating getting one, I'd really want to see them. And I'd be very confused by ETI's site as there isn't anything on there mentioning it's getting an update in styling/awning/windows/etc. They can't assume everyone will come to this forum. Heck, even for those on the forum for a long time, it's hard to find stuff!

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Well I guess there is no point in posting your build photos nor any modifications
photo's for other member's information, that is the whole purpose of this forum to help others not necessarily for ETI benefit.

Your insinuations that I am not here to help others is WAY off base. You might as well block me now, as I do plan on sharing my modifications with what I do, and will continue to help people via forum posting, and through the numerous messages I get looking for advice. It is who I am, I truly enjoy helping others, and just because you don't like how I operate, I am certainly not going to change.

I AM NOT going to be posting photos of the new 5.0 TA, and if you really believe my contributions to this forum are that lacking because of it, well that is your prerogative. Believe it or not, I am a person with integrity, and will act accordingly.

[Donna D.]

Jim, I think you're being extremely respectful to ETIs business. When I know something in advance of public knowledge... whether personal or business, I always say "it's NOT my story to tell." Thank you for being you.

[Marry]

Jim, though I don't know you in person, I do get a good "fibe" of you already!! Just by reading your contributions to this forum.
And yes, there is no fun in opening someone else's present! People should respect the way YOU see best fit!
Merry Christmas Jim! And thank you for all you did and do for everyone else's benefit!

[rbryan4]

I don't read it that way Jim, but then again, I wasn't the one who was questioned. Anyone who's been here more than a few days already knows how helpful and knowledgeable you are. Let it slide.