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Old 07-22-2014, 11:17 AM   #21
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Another use for the hood with outside vent is ventilation in the rain. With your windows closed and the MaxxFan on either exhaust or intake, you need a source/exhaust of fresh air, thus the vent hood can be propped open, even in the rain to allow static air to enter/leave the unit safely. Also use during the winter when the unit is sealed up against the winter chill, some fresh air helps eliminate condensation and stuffiness inside. When not in use in the winter I place a piece of foam insulation on the outside to keep cold air at bay.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:32 AM   #22
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I really learned on our trip this summer that different situations will require different ways to use the trailer. I'm still happy that we ordered the two burner stove -- no oven -- no microwave -- However, I'd thought we'd almost always be cooking outside and that was not the case. When it was raining or we were only in a spot for one night and especially in the morning, the indoor stove was just easier. In addition, in almost every place we camped, bears were an issue, so the stove and absolutely everything else associated with cooking had to be put away after every use -- not possible to establish an outdoor kitchen.

The captain's lamps may come in handy, but after 5 weeks in the trailer we rarely used them. I'm happy that we don't have a stove fan -- we couldn't anyway because we switched the position of the stove and the sink -- but I could understand that some people would prefer to have it. I like the openness-- the extra light --and grease buildup has not been a problem, since I don't cook much greasy stuff inside and I cover pots and pans. I check underneath the overhead cabinets and they don't get any buildup.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:00 PM   #23
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I really learned on our trip this summer that different situations will require different ways to use the trailer. I'm still happy that we ordered the two burner stove -- no oven -- no microwave -- However, I'd thought we'd almost always be cooking outside and that was not the case. When it was raining or we were only in a spot for one night and especially in the morning, the indoor stove was just easier. In addition, in almost every place we camped, bears were an issue, so the stove and absolutely everything else associated with cooking had to be put away after every use -- not possible to establish an outdoor kitchen.

The captain's lamps may come in handy, but after 5 weeks in the trailer we rarely used them. I'm happy that we don't have a stove fan -- we couldn't anyway because we switched the position of the stove and the sink -- but I could understand that some people would prefer to have it. I like the openness-- the extra light --and grease buildup has not been a problem, since I don't cook much greasy stuff inside and I cover pots and pans. I check underneath the overhead cabinets and they don't get any buildup.
Excellent points. The trailer should be tailored to your individual needs - that's what is so nice about ETI. As Donna always says, "it's about you".
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:27 PM   #24
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I would agree with Ruthe, on one trip there can be several different situations that could make different requirements, we find that while traveling we use the inside stove and when set up
Somewhere it's more outside , and certainly anything greasy or stinky is done outside.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:14 PM   #25
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I'm surprised how many people have said they are glad they don't have a microwave. In any of my previous campers, I have always found the nuke to be a quick and easy solution when we come back from a day exploring the local area and it is raining. While I prefer to cook outside, I rarely used the inside stove, except maybe to boil water. I'm perceiving it is mainly a "space" issue. Not sure if I would want to trade of the convenience of the microwave for whatever space I might gain. Thank you all for responding and please keep the suggestions coming. I am learning a lot.
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The microwave requires hook ups and most things cooked in the microwave can be cooked via alternate methods which do not require hook ups.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:37 PM   #27
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The microwave requires hook ups and most things cooked in the microwave can be cooked via alternate methods which do not require hook ups.
True. If I dry camped a lot I'd probably want the cabinet space vs the microwave.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:41 PM   #28
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We opted for no microwave and no hood. We put our money into customizing the upholstry and the formica. We also spent money customizing the dining area in our 19. We opted for the U shaped dinette and the raised floor. Combine those two options and we have one pricey dining room. We thought it was worth the money to make the living room/dining room area the most comfortable.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:42 PM   #29
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We eat left overs. The microwave is great for warming things up and boiling water for tea
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:49 PM   #30
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"What the future holds, no one knows... " I'm no longer looking in the rearview mirror, just trying to plan for future travels.

The microwave doesn't have to be an either or decision. You CAN get the cabinet wired for a microwave and get the cabinet door mounted. If you decide in the future a microwave is what you want, buy the microwave at Wally World, etc. remove the door, plug it in, complete the frame to secure it and you're good to go.

I've owned Ten Forward for 19 days, camped for 11 and have given the microwave a good work out. (Always hooked up though). Besides, it's the only clock inside the trailer.
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Old 07-22-2014, 05:34 PM   #31
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We have a Wally World microwave that we bring with us when we are going to have hookups and are planning to use it. It travels in the cabinets by the stairs to the loft. There is an outlet for it inside the cabinet. We got our 5.0 second hand so we just work with what we have. If we aren't planning to use it, we just leave it at home. Best of both worlds.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:03 PM   #32
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I'm happy that we don't have a stove fan -- we couldn't anyway because we switched the position of the stove and the sink -- but I could understand that some people would prefer to have it.
my sink is on the right, stove on the left. We just put the range hood on the stove side, and the window on the sink side, easy peasy.
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I'm surprised how many people have said they are glad they don't have a microwave. In any of my previous campers, I have always found the nuke to be a quick and easy solution when we come back from a day exploring the local area and it is raining. While I prefer to cook outside, I rarely used the inside stove, except maybe to boil water. I'm perceiving it is mainly a "space" issue. Not sure if I would want to trade of the convenience of the microwave for whatever space I might gain. Thank you all for responding and please keep the suggestions coming. I am learning a lot.
Even if your cooking style used a microwave, and ours really doesn't. We too love the storage space where the MW would go, as mentioned before it holds 90% of our dry goods. If there was a microwave installed, for 90% of our camping it would just be dead weight, as we don't want to run a genset. For us, there are so many other quick and efficient ways to cook, with the implements and appliances we have.

But, if it is something that you do make good use of, then it definitely is a worthwhile thing to have.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:13 PM   #33
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[QUOTE=Donna D.:. You CAN get the cabinet wired for a microwave and get the cabinet door mounted.

Does anyone know if the cabinet where a microwave would be (but isn't) installed on the 21 has a 120V plug ? It was there in our 17B and the previous owner's build sheet didn't indicate any option for a plug. There are 5 plugs standard, yet there is no map as to where they are on ETI website. Could call them, but know they're really busy.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:18 PM   #34
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Since we prefer to boondock, the microwave was left out. We really prefer the extra space!

We use the shower all the time, and the powered fan is great. It is also a useful white noise generator -- just sayin'

We added the low pressure propane outlet, but have never used it. I like my Coleman naptha stove. Still, we cook indoors lot's when the weather is bad.

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Old 07-22-2014, 06:22 PM   #35
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[QUOTE=Rossue;60085][QUOTE=Donna D.:. You CAN get the cabinet wired for a microwave and get the cabinet door mounted.

Does anyone know if the cabinet where a microwave would be (but isn't) installed on the 21 has a 120V plug ? It was there in our 17B and the previous owner's build sheet didn't indicate any option for a plug. There are 5 plugs standard, yet there is no map as to where they are on ETI website. Could call them, but know they're really busy.[/QUOTE]
Hi: Rossue... I believe the micro. placement in the 21 is the same as the 5.0TA... beside the fridge. ETI puts it on a dedicated circuit and it is marked so. Alf
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:26 PM   #36
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Thanks Alf; that's what I thought, but Donna's comment made me wonder. The cabinet(s) IS/ARE wired sounds like. We were going to get the microwave, but thought, heck let's get the door and try the nuke thingy & see if we really want it. Costco has a neat looking one for $50. If we don't like it back it goes!
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:33 PM   #37
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Thanks Alf; that's what I thought, but Donna's comment made me wonder. The cabinet(s) IS/ARE wired sounds like. We were going to get the microwave, but thought, heck let's get the door and try the nuke thingy & see if we really want it. Costco has a neat looking one for $50. If we don't like it back it goes!
Hi: Rossue... Best to check if ETI wires for it, if you don't get their micro. unit. Alf
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:40 PM   #38
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Alf- so you have the microwave? Anyone else out there who doesn't have one in a 21 or TA have just the cabinet with a plug in it and didn't special order it?
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No nuker here, but there is an outlet in the cabinet.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:07 PM   #40
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A microwave would be useful when we have electricity but our storage compromise was getting the larger frig. This eliminated a couple of shelves and if we'd decided on a microwave I'm not sure where it would have gone, but it would have eliminated yet more kitchen storage. We're happy with the big frig and we ended up staying at places without electricity this summer. As for the fan above the stove, Tammy cautioned that if we reversed the stove and sink we should not get the fan because of the risk of bumping into it when we entered. I thought of that when I bumped my head against the storage cabinet over the passenger bench seat.
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