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11-05-2016, 02:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
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Why the new screen doors on 17/19.
We love the sliding screen doors on our 2 year old 17B. Why did Escape change to traditional swinging screen doors which I found to be a PIA?
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11-05-2016, 02:10 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
We love the sliding screen doors on our 2 year old 17B. Why did Escape change to traditional swinging screen doors which I found to be a PIA?
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Probably because the entry door and screen door can be supplied in sets, saving alot of money. We love our hiding screen too, but they're not without their problems.
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11-05-2016, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ponoka, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
We love the sliding screen doors on our 2 year old 17B. Why did Escape change to traditional swinging screen doors which I found to be a PIA?
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Same here. Love the sliding one!
We had the swinging one on our previous trailer. What I did not like about it, is that you have to step back when you open or close it, that you have to keep the outside space clear where the door swings, and that you have to make sure to close the little slider in order to keep bugs out.
You might want to call me old fashioned, but looove the classic!!
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11-05-2016, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Nothing classic about that sliding screen door.
Classic is the bifold on my 2008.
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11-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ponoka, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Classic is the bifold on my 2008.
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That's old!
Too young for that.
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11-05-2016, 03:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Yup, love the retracting screen door. Had the traditional ones on 3 RV's. Hated it, what a nuisance opening the little port, reaching through to the door handle, dealing with two swinging doors etc.
Ron
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11-05-2016, 04:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Yup, love the retracting screen door. Had the traditional ones on 3 RV's. Hated it, what a nuisance opening the little port, reaching through to the door handle, dealing with two swinging doors etc.
Ron
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Another vote for sliding screen door . Really was happy to see this improvement after dealing with other doors on previous camper and motorhome . Pat
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11-05-2016, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Santa Rosa County, Florida
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I find this reaction interesting. I've always viewed my sliding screen door as an accident waiting to happen, and figured that the flat door and flat screen door would be an improvement. But people who've had experience with both are saying they like the sliding door better. I wouldn't have guessed this.
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11-05-2016, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
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I think the Campster door has them all beat- built like a storm door with a panel that goes up to open to a screen in the door itself. One door to open and close, with or without ventilation.
Although, to be fair, the door also pops open during transit...
I like the sliding screen but am worried that I'll have a dog go right through it.
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11-05-2016, 04:52 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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I'm just glad I have a screen door! Any screen door... I can't believe several manufacturers where it's considered an option or isn't offered at all. Wow.
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11-05-2016, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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Actually the new style door will also be on the 21 and 5th TA 2nd gen models, it is part of all the new style Escapes.
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11-05-2016, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I'm just glad I have a screen door! Any screen door... I can't believe several manufacturers where it's considered an option or isn't offered at all. Wow.
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Donna that is a new one on me . Never heard of a screen door being a option . However I am old enough to remember a rear bumper on my truck and a sun visor on the passenger side were options on your truck . Had to go to junk yard and Linda got up into a truck that was only on stacked tires to get passenger side visor for our 1963 Ford . Pat
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11-05-2016, 07:29 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
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Slider fan here. Easy to repair after the dogs crashed through it a few times. Put at stencil pattern on the screen at dog eyeball height - no more problems, they can tell whether it's open or not. Just some training was needed.
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11-05-2016, 08:01 PM
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Pat, there are lots and lots and lots of Scamp owners trying to figure out how to add a screen door. It's only been in the last year or two that it's become standard. Before that, it was a $200 option. I'm happy the first owner of my Scamp got it. Casita doesn't even have it as an option (still) on the 13' or 16' trailer (they should have figured out how Scamp mounted the bi-fold screen door on the aircraft door). Some of those people have figured out hanging a lace curtain works as a screen door!
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11-05-2016, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tractors1
Slider fan here. Easy to repair after the dogs crashed through it a few times. Put at stencil pattern on the screen at dog eyeball height - no more problems, they can tell whether it's open or not. Just some training was needed.
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Good idea.
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11-05-2016, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marry
We had the swinging one on our previous trailer. What I did not like about it, is that you have to step back when you open or close it, that you have to keep the outside space clear where the door swings, and that you have to make sure to close the little slider in order to keep bugs out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Had the traditional ones on 3 RV's. Hated it, what a nuisance opening the little port, reaching through to the door handle, dealing with two swinging doors etc.
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Although the need to access the main door handle through the screen door causes issues with conventional RV screen doors, the model from Lippert which Escape is using appears to have a feature which avoids this - you turn a part on the screen door (without opening a hatch of any kind) and the main door handle releases.
Even with a conventional RV setup, the screen door stays attached to the main door unless you chose to leave the main door open and use only the screen. As long as you have a working device to hold the main door open (that part is important), it's not a problem.
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11-05-2016, 09:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ponoka, Alberta
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Brian, you are totally right! Still like the convenience of the slider better. One example: when being inside and want to close the screen door, with the swing you have to go outside to close the door; with the slider not. Also going inside, balancing cups or glasses on a tray, the not to have step back in order to open the screen door, is a huge benefit for me (guess that is a woman's thing), put the tray down inside, have to go back outside to close the screen behind you going inside.
Too much work for this old lady!
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11-05-2016, 09:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Pat, there are lots and lots and lots of Scamp owners trying to figure out how to add a screen door. It's only been in the last year or two that it's become standard. Before that, it was a $200 option. I'm happy the first owner of my Scamp got it. Casita doesn't even have it as an option (still) on the 13' or 16' trailer (they should have figured out how Scamp mounted the bi-fold screen door on the aircraft door). Some of those people have figured out hanging a lace curtain works as a screen door!
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Never knew this . 200. Is a little pricey but I definitely would have sprung for the screen door . How about that screen door Rob of Rob and Linda , made for his Casita ? Pat
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11-05-2016, 09:30 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Van., British Columbia
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Having said how much I like the sliding screen door I should add that I like it even more after adding interior and exterior handles. Makes it effortless to flip it open and closed when you can control it with your fingers while moving the slide lock.
Ron
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11-06-2016, 05:47 AM
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Site Team
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Never knew this . 200. Is a little pricey but I definitely would have sprung for the screen door . How about that screen door Rob of Rob and Linda , made for his Casita ? Pat
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Rob and Linda had a 17' Casita. It has a flat entry door and all 17' have screen doors. It's the 16' and 13' Casitas that have the aircraft door (ala Scamp) and have never had screen doors or a manufacturers option for one.
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