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Old 01-02-2017, 05:18 PM   #21
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My wife and I are working on our build sheet for a 21' we are wondering if anyone has regretted getting an option or wishing they had gotten mote options?
I would have ordered the foot operated toilet flush had I known how difficult it was for one person to hold the toilet in the open position and use the cleaning wand in the black tank. The cleaning wand takes both hands to operate. (I'm cleaning the black tank in order to keep the tank sensor working. Otherwise it reads full even when empty.)

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In my 17B, I'm able to wedge the valve open with a container of Wet Ones.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:57 PM   #23
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Wedging a container does not work with 21's. Someone did use a line from the sink to the valve handle to keep the valve open.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:04 PM   #24
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How about a keg of beer?
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:17 PM   #25
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It would have to be a squished one.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:30 PM   #26
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I would have ordered the foot operated toilet flush had I known how difficult it was for one person to hold the toilet in the open position and use the cleaning wand in the black tank. The cleaning wand takes both hands to operate. (I'm cleaning the black tank in order to keep the tank sensor working. Otherwise it reads full even when empty.)

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Old 01-02-2017, 06:34 PM   #27
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It would have to be a squished one.
Not if it's a pony keg..............
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:37 PM   #28
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I would have three 12V outlets inside: front, rear, and amidships, and at least one outside.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:02 PM   #29
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Only had our 21 about 3 months, but coming home from Chilliwack after 4000 mile and 30 nights there a couple things i wish i did different. I would not get the backup Camera agin. I grew up on a dairy farm, was driver trainer for crash equipment in the Air Force, I've been backing something or other up since I was 10 yrs old. I used the camera once on the way home. Other than that I was at the site and all backed in before I remembered to turn it on. I wish I had gotten the power jack. When we were leaving the KOA in Lynden, a young couple asked me for help hooking up they're new jayco, the power jack was nice! Jury is still out on the fold up tables in the dinette, have not used them yet. And the stock table has got to go before spring! After 3 other campers, that is the worst table I have ever had. Its a PIA to set up and take down, and not steady at all, i don't dare travel with it set up. Every other thing we love.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:25 PM   #30
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Thanks Gary for commenting! Least I won't have to wonder and think "I should have asked". If I had, the answer would have been no.
Still, I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask if someone hasn't finalized their Build Sheet. But we have and of course you already have yours! Looking forward to seeing you at the Spring NOG!

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Old 01-02-2017, 07:28 PM   #31
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We did not order any of the captain's lights at the dining room table area as we don't like a lot of bright lights. However, after picking up our 21' and camping in Chilliwack for one night before heading home, we called and had them to install
a captain's light in the rear on each side of the dining table. Love them! It makes it possible to turn on a light and aim in direction needed at the table. IF we had it to do over, we would do as someone else on the forum suggested and have another captain's light on each side in the front of the table seating corners for a total of 4 lights (2 in front & 2 in rear).
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:38 PM   #32
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Only had our 21 about 3 months, but coming home from Chilliwack after 4000 mile and 30 nights there a couple things i wish i did different. I would not get the backup Camera agin. I grew up on a dairy farm, was driver trainer for crash equipment in the Air Force, I've been backing something or other up since I was 10 yrs old. I used the camera once on the way home. Other than that I was at the site and all backed in before I remembered to turn it on. I wish I had gotten the power jack. When we were leaving the KOA in Lynden, a young couple asked me for help hooking up they're new jayco, the power jack was nice! Jury is still out on the fold up tables in the dinette, have not used them yet. And the stock table has got to go before spring! After 3 other campers, that is the worst table I have ever had. Its a PIA to set up and take down, and not steady at all, i don't dare travel with it set up. Every other thing we love.
Thanks for the great input, I used to drive semi so the back up camera is out. I keep hearing about the power jack but I'm still young sorry to hear about the table, I have not mentioned to my wife about the folding tables
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:40 PM   #33
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If you plan to use a WDH, that power jack will come in handy.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:42 PM   #34
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The only thing I can think of is I regret getting the TV ready with the Jack antenna. Don't get me wrong, it works fine, I just don't like the antenna sitting up at the peak of the roof. It gets in the way when I cover the trailer and it's something else I have to watch for hitting trees, sticks up about a foot higher then anything else. For the amount I use the TV I think one of the Leaf's you put in a window would have worked.

Thought of another one, I forgot to have ETI install Horst probes, meant to, but spaced it off.
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:31 PM   #35
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My wife and I are working on our build sheet for a 21' we are wondering if anyone has regretted getting an option or wishing they had gotten mote options?
Our first long camping trip was very different than we envisioned early on when we bought the Escape '21. Our plan was to boondock forever, but we discovered campground hosting and couldn't resist the temptation to be the campground bosses. So, in early 2016 we found ourselves "anchored" in one of the full service sites at Big Bend NP. Hosting required a minimum of a government phone, computer & government issued radio. And since we were essentially full timers we needed our own phone (out of cellphone range), our router, answering machine, his & her laptops, etc. The bottom line was we had more than half a dozen chargers and power supplies going at once all the time, and cords everywhere.

To cope with the unexpected demand for electricity I added a multiple 110V outlet under the seat on the passenger side. And if we do it again (hosting) I will add one under the driver side seat also. I bet Escape could do this for a reasonable cost if asked. And I would really like one at the forward end of the bed for our electric blankets, clocks, gadgets, etc. No such thing as too many power outlets.

Someday we'll go back to boondocking!
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:47 PM   #36
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:23 PM   #37
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Still, I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask if someone hasn't finalized their Build Sheet. But we have and of course you already have yours! Looking forward to seeing you at the Spring NOG!

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True, you never know if ETI might change their minds on something.

Hey, by the Spring NOG I might have my outside decals on. It won't be hard to miss! It'll be my first rally so I'm really curious if they'll be "my thing" or not. Time will tell!
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.... IF we had it to do over, we would do as someone else on the forum suggested and have another captain's light on each side in the front of the table seating corners for a total of 4 lights (2 in front & 2 in rear).
Interesting idea. What I wish I had, after spending 3 nights in the trailer (in the driveway), is a middle light over my head on the bed. I like to read in bed before trying to fall asleep. I got the extra lights on either side, but they really don't illuminate my book the way I would like. I'm thinking one smack dab in the middle of that cabinet would have been perfect. Heck if I know if ETI would have done that as I just now thought of it!
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:48 PM   #39
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The captain's lights are great. Two in the dinette corners and two at the head of the bed. We bounce the light off the headliner and it is excellent. Power tongue jack is something I would never live without again. Great option.
The one thing I'd probably leave off would be the King Jack Antenna. Works OK, but not really necessary. The world is changing and most of the things we watch aren't on TV anymore.
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