Add a sink

[Trishb]

Hi there. I was wondering if it would be possible to add a kitchen sink and needed plumbing etc to a 2011 15A. Thanks for any input

[Ron in BC]

There's always a way. Post a photo showing the area and what you'd like to do.

Ron

[Ian and Sue]

Originally Posted by Trishb

Hi there. I was wondering if it would be possible to add a kitchen sink and needed plumbing etc to a 2011 15A. Thanks for any input

You could mount up a sink with a foot actuated pump(often used on boats), a small water tank(I am thinking one of those blue 5 gal jobs) and a waste tank (another blue tank). This would be simple and the tanks could be easily removable for emptying and filling.

[Ron in BC]

I was thinking along those lines also. A hand operated pump helps conserve water which would be good if the tank was limited in size.

I'm not sure if the OP is also requesting some ideas on how to install a sink and put a system together etc.

Ron

[Trishb]

The 15a I am wanting to buy did not come with a kitchen sink installed.I think at some point I would miss not having an indoor sink.I will try and include the picture owner sent me I can’t figure out how to post pics here?

[Trishb]

Hi. Thanks for your reply.I can’t figure out how to post pics

[padlin]

Here's some instructions. If you need a hand you can drop one of the mods a PM, me being one. https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...otos-9057.html

[Ron in BC]

Originally Posted by Trishb

The 15a I am wanting to buy did not come with a kitchen sink installed.I think at some point I would miss not having an indoor sink.I will try and include the picture owner sent me I can’t figure out how to post pics here?

It took a bit of searching but I finally found a floor plan for the 15A. That's one model that I've never been in.

It shows a kitchen counter and sink. Does yours already have a counter?

Ron

[Trishb]

Yes,she has factory installed countertop

[Trishb]

Countertop

[lancenadine]

What are you draining it to?

[Ron in BC]

Sweet, looks great and certainly wouldn't be a problem to install a sink.

"Ian and Sues" suggestion is certainly right on.

I'm presuming you want to keep it on the simple side using a manual pump. There are two kinds; one you move a lever with your hand and one that has a small lever just above floor level that you operate with your foot.

I've had both types, even on the same sink on my boat, one for fresh water and one for salt water. The simplest pump to install is the hand operated one and the intake tube could just go directly to the container that you choose to use for your fresh water supply.

A foot pump is a little more difficult to install and the lever sticking out can be a bit of a toe stubber in a relatively small space.

There are various size tanks available or you could use portable tanks for both fresh and gray water. Having the gray tank portable keeps the system simple.

Ron

[Bobbie54]

The easiest thing would be a dry sink drained into a container of some kind, either in the dinette seat or under the sink where that large cupboard is. Use a water dispenser and empty the gray water container as needed. My Campster had a fresh water tank and hand pump to the sink, but drained to a container that was hooked up outside the trailer. (I didn't use it but that was the setup.) I never missed running water but did miss somewhere to pour water out.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Ron in BC

A foot pump is a little more difficult to install and the lever sticking out can be a bit of a toe stubber in a relatively small space.

True, but the foot pump leaves both hands free, which I would certainly want, especially when washing my hands. It could potentially be installed in a recess in the cabinet if someone is willing to do the cabinet work.

I've only used a foot pump once, on a sailboat, and it seemed like a good idea. The owner of the boat said that installing an electric pump wouldn't be a problem; he had the foot pump to discourage wasting of fresh water. If there is both hot and cold water (unlikely in an installation without an electric pump) it should even be possible to mount two foot pumps side-by-side, and pump both hot and cold with one foot when desired.

In practice, of course, almost everyone uses an electric pump now, older small travel trailers without water heaters or showers had hand pumps, and foot pumps are typically found only in boats.

[Ron in BC]

Yes, there are some pluses for the foot pump. But for a simple installation the hand pump is the way to go.

I've had years of washing my hands with a hand pump. There's residual flow, enough to wet the second hand. You can also push with your wrist while your hand is in the water flow.

I should mention that finding a suitable container to fit under the counter might be difficult but I wouldn't hesitate to remove the shelf to accommodate one or both tanks. The shelf is easy to remove.

Ron

[Thane]

Something like this may take care of the drain.

https://parts.unitedrv.com/products/...BoCrtcQAvD_BwE

These folks have some pretty cool sinks with covers and associated drains.

https://pantherrvproducts.com/dometi...dard-sink-5-5/

[Mike G]

When I think about installing a sink, water pump, drain and catch tank, I get a sinking feeling and my ambition drains away. The thought just doesn't get me pumped.

[Thane]

This video after time 3:15 may be of interest, it shows a new sink installation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYITiuvf-8c

[Ron in BC]

Originally Posted by Mike G

When I think about installing a sink, water pump, drain and catch tank, I get a sinking feeling and my ambition drains away. The thought just doesn't get me pumped.

Good thing the topic wasn't toilets, who knows what you would have done with that topic.

Ron

[dfandrews]

Here is what is done on the 17A (no bathroom, so no holding tanks).
The sink drains to tubing that terminates at the side exterior wall and hose connection. On the exterior a short piece of converted garden hose then directs the water into a 5 gallon covered bucket.