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11-03-2019, 02:15 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Yes they do and did I mention how quiet they are.
Ron
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The sad part was our 1979 little motorhome had a squirrel cage in the stove vent then somewhere along the line they went cheap in RV’s ! Just can’t figure where to install a heater in the 19 . We have a portable if hookups . We like it sometimes on the kitchen counter for warm air during showers and under dinette facing bed area when we go to sleep . Facing the cabinets not really ideal as has been mentioned . Really outfitting you’re new trailer Ron ! Pat
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11-03-2019, 03:20 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Those squirrel cages sure work nice even in our stove vents too (Sam 1 stove vent ) they really move the air ! Pat
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The fan in this heater has that "squirrel cage" look, but is actually a transverse or cross-flow fan, which works quite differently. The term "squirrel cage" is used for centrifugal fans, which take in air at the centre (so at the ends) and blow it out the periphery; these fans take it in along the whole length on one side and blow it out the other side. Both types can be noisy junk or reasonably quiet and effective, but the transverse design is much more suitable for this heater configuration.
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11-03-2019, 03:53 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The fan in this heater has that "squirrel cage" look, but is actually a transverse or cross-flow fan, which works quite differently. The term "squirrel cage" is used for centrifugal fans, which take in air at the centre (so at the ends) and blow it out the periphery; these fans take it in along the whole length on one side and blow it out the other side. Both types can be noisy junk or reasonably quiet and effective, but the transverse design is much more suitable for this heater configuration.
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Brian thought it was a squirrel cage. What do I know ? But the Sam1 really works well and so did the squirrel cage vent fan on our older Motorhome too. Looks like a nice heater though and wish I had a place for it . Pat
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11-03-2019, 05:06 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Just can’t figure where to install a heater in the 19 . We have a portable if hookups . We like it sometimes on the kitchen counter for warm air during showers and under dinette facing bed area when we go to sleep .
Pat
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I found, for the 19 with a portable heater, that an independent thermostat worked best. When hung near the bed it allowed for easy tweaking of the temperature without getting out of bed.
The cords and box with bracket are now surplus. I'll have them with me at Q'site if you want them.
Ron
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11-03-2019, 06:23 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
I found, for the 19 with a portable heater, that an independent thermostat worked best. When hung near the bed it allowed for easy tweaking of the temperature without getting out of bed.
The cords and box with bracket are now surplus. I'll have them with me at Q'site if you want them.
Ron
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Yes Ron ! Would like very much ! Thankyou ! Pat
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11-03-2019, 07:11 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
... thought it was a squirrel cage. What do I know ? But the Sam1 really works well and so did the squirrel cage vent fan on our older Motorhome too.
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The SAM-1 vent does use a squirrel cage fan, taking air in vertically through a circular inlet on the bottom of the vertical-axis fan, and discharging horizontally through tangential rectangular duct to the outside vent.
This stove vent looks like a good place to use a squirrel cage, just as Ron's heater is a good place for a transverse fan.
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11-03-2019, 07:37 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The SAM-1 vent does use a squirrel cage fan, taking air in vertically through a circular inlet on the bottom of the vertical-axis fan, and discharging horizontally through tangential rectangular duct to the outside vent.
This stove vent looks like a good place to use a squirrel cage, just as Ron's heater is a good place for a transverse fan.
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Thanks Brian ! Pat
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11-03-2019, 07:53 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape "Classic" 5.0 SA
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
There you go.
Ron
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Looks good, thank you.
Barry
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11-13-2019, 01:06 PM
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#29
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Courtenay, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape19 2016
Posts: 50
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I use a circulating oil heater in my 19-foot Escape, and it keeps the trailer warm without using the gas heater - and it's totally silent.
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11-13-2019, 01:56 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I have used one of those in my last 4 Escapes, it is a 500 watt oil filled heater, plugged into a thermocube that activates at 35 on and 45 off. I leave it on during the winter. This am, when it was 25 outside, it was 40 degrees inside the Escape.
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11-13-2019, 06:12 PM
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#31
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: N. River, New York
Trailer: April 2015, 21 classic
Posts: 29
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Jim, your reply about keeping a low level of heat in your Escape during the winter got me to thinking about that same idea with mine. So my 21 is undercover, inside a metal framed and plastic covered "Quonset" type garage all winter long on jack stands. The only element it endures is the cold, and it was cold last night at about zero here is the Adirondack Mountains. And there is lots more winter cold to come!!! There is power at the trailer and occasionally when I do some work on it, I turn on a small cube heater inside. But what is your thinking about why you keep a continuous low level of heat in yours? Thanks in advanced for your reply.
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11-13-2019, 06:22 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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I only use the oil filled as there are no moving parts that may cause problems. A fan driven motor can fail. I keep my unit at home and enter it several times a week just to fine tune things and keeping it warmer than the outside makes it bearable. Keeps me out of trouble.....
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11-13-2019, 06:50 PM
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#33
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: N. River, New York
Trailer: April 2015, 21 classic
Posts: 29
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Oh I agree completely with moving parts and failure. The oil filed unit seems like an excellent idea here while the 21 is wintering over and stationary. Thanks!
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