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Old 11-12-2019, 07:26 PM   #1
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Captain light too harsh

We’ve captain lights over the bed in our 5ta. We don’t use them for reading (use ebooks) but would like to have some mood lights in the area on some evenings ( by ‘mood’ we mean something relaxing, NOT what you’re thinking!). As it is we find they have the charm of a streetlight. Very efficient, but the hue they create is industrial, not warm. Does anyone have ideas on how to change the colour to something which doesn’t scream ‘inner city’?
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:56 PM   #2
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Those bulbs can be easily replaced. Search 12volt LED spotlight M-16 base. Search for a "warm white" bulb. I did notice just now that there are companies that allow you to adjust the color in case the "mood" strikes you. Thanks for getting me thinking because those are harsh (cool white) lights and I need to switch out mine!
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:27 PM   #3
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I swapped some of the "daylight" ( about 5,700k) colored led lamps supplied by ETI for some in the 3000k range. A much warmer color. The off the shelf ones I found at my hardware store are 3 watts, about double the wattage of the stock lamps.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:26 PM   #4
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Same as OP, we thought the captain lights were too harsh. Rather than wade through online listings looking for a warmer replacement we opted to shop locally at a “Batteries Plus Bulbs” store. After looking at the factory installed bulb and learning what we wanted they fixed us right up. -Tom
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We've just rotated them so they face the corner. As indirect lighting they work pretty well.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:14 AM   #6
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We had the same issues with the lights being too bright. I even bought some lower wattage light bulbs to no avail.

Thanks to Tom (tdf-texas), here was my solution. I am extremely happy!


12V Reading Lamp RV Boat LED... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079L3BXX4...p_mob_ap_share

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Old 11-13-2019, 08:36 AM   #7
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I like the lights for reading. Other than that we have it on to get set in bed and don't have any trouble with it. Maybe if you were hanging out there, but if I wasn't reading I would likely just use the ceiling light, so maybe it could be a dimmer, warm white one.
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The higher Kelvin (5700) makes these lights better for knitting or other detailed handwork than if they were 3000k. I use one at our dinette for this every time we take the Escape anywhere. Those by our bed, though, I agree are best when rotated to face the corner wall. Very nice effect, IMHO.
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We had the same issues with the lights being too bright. I even bought some lower wattage light bulbs to no avail.

Thanks to Tom (tdf-texas), here was my solution. I am extremely happy!


12V Reading Lamp RV Boat LED... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079L3BXX4...p_mob_ap_share

Fred M.

Tom (tdf-texas) has been a huge help to me and to others on the forum, as well. Shout out to you and Unie, Tom!
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Thanks so much for the great (and easy) solutions!
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:23 AM   #11
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Fred, did these fit over the existing hole or did you have to buy a cover plate?
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Fred, did these fit over the existing hole or did you have to buy a cover plate?


They fit over the existing holes. I forgot to mention that these are warm lights as opposed to cool lights.

Sorry about the late reply.
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They fit over the existing holes. I forgot to mention that these are warm lights as opposed to cool lights.

Sorry about the late reply.
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So all I would have to do is swap the fixtures, I don’t have to worry about voltage differences?
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All you need to do is switch the 12v bulbs, take out the cool white and install a warm white bulb. see here for some samples https://www.superbrightleds.com/sear...e,MR11,30,579:
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Old 12-23-2019, 11:54 AM   #15
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Replacing the the bulbs with 35 or 50 watt (lower wattage dimmer light) equivalent 12 volt in the warm range (3000k or lower) is a much easier fix for the harsh light from the bulbs that come from ETI. These are easy to find at your local hardware store. Just take one of the ones in the camper with you. These are usually found in the area where they sell low voltage lights for the garden. Quick easy pull the old bulb out and snap the new one in. Easy peasy!
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Theatrical color media can be used to both soften harsh lighting that produces sharp shadows & color correction to change the high color temperature 6K lamps to a warmer 3200°K or warmer. Frosts, such as RoscoLux 111 are great for diffusing or softening light sources by spreading out the source, while there are hundreds of colors, some that are designed as color corrections that shift color temperatures.

While easier to add to the inside of standard LED fixtures, I have taped frosts over the front of my Captain's Lights which makes them more comfortable for reading. You can buy sheets of RoacoLux at serious photo supply & theatrical supply stores, or on line from Amazon, etc. If you go to a theatrical supply, you may be able to talk them into a free "Swatch" book, a 2"X3" book of camel colors.

Rosco's RoscoLux catalog.
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Theatrical color media can be used to both soften harsh lighting that produces sharp shadows & color correction to change the high color temperature 6K lamps to a warmer 3200°K or warmer. Frosts, such as RoscoLux 111 are great for diffusing or softening light sources by spreading out the source, while there are hundreds of colors, some that are designed as color corrections that shift color temperatures.

While easier to add to the inside of standard LED fixtures, I have taped frosts over the front of my Captain's Lights which makes them more comfortable for reading. You can buy sheets of RoacoLux at serious photo supply & theatrical supply stores, or on line from Amazon, etc. If you go to a theatrical supply, you may be able to talk them into a free "Swatch" book, a 2"X3" book of camel colors.

Rosco's RoscoLux catalog.
Thanks, Jon! This seems like the easiest, least expensive, and most practical solution - until my new bulbs burn out.
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too brite?

Just an idea..we used pieces of white gaffer tape on some lites in our ole Casita to cut down on glare. I don't know if it wud work in this instance, and we have not even picked up our E21 yet to be able to tell..but we always carry a roll of white gaffer tape while camping anyways...It sticks great and leaves no sticky residue when pulled off.
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All you need to do is switch the 12v bulbs, take out the cool white and install a warm white bulb. see here for some samples https://www.superbrightleds.com/sear...e,MR11,30,579:
those fit the nasty corner 'reading' lamps used circa 2014 ?

oh wow (he went out to the trailer and looked closer), yeah, they DO fit.

i think I'l get some of the warm white lower watt ones and see how they go. oh heck, ordered two of the 130 lumen and 2 of the 250 lumen
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So all I would have to do is swap the fixtures, I don’t have to worry about voltage differences?


That’s correct. It was a simple swap.

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