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01-28-2017, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Electric Heater Install
My first modification to my new 5.0TA was to install an electric heater, so I could use it this winter as I do my other mods, and not put a strain on the propane supply. I had planned to do it anyway. My trailer is on the drive in front of my attached garage so quite handy to my workshop.
After a lot of looking and researching for a built in electric heater install, I settled on a Myson Whispa E50 Kickspace Fan Convector.
I decided on some kind of kickspace heater due to their low profile. I did not want to put a large grate on the wall in a space I could better use for cabinet storage. I looked at offerings from many companies, basically every model out there. I settled on the Myson E50 as it had a quiet squirrel cage fan, and two heat settings. Most heaters that offer multiple heat outputs have to be rewired inside the housing to accommodate the change, or one could go to the trouble to wire in a selector switch. The Myson E50 offered dual switches right on the front of the unit for selecting either 800 or 1600 Watts.
The 5.0TA offers the perfect location for the heater, in the bottom step to the loft. I had to have Escape build it a bit wider to comfortably house the heater. The depth of the step is fine as it is. Here is a shot before I cut out the hole to install the heater in.
This is a shot of the installed heater from above. There is a grate on the rear, as well as the one on the top for return air, which comes in both sides of the front grille. You can see the two cleats front and back I put in, where I will cut and put a plywood shelf so I can still stow things above the heater. The shelf is up a bit to allow good air circulation around the heater. Instead of wiring in a line voltage thermostat, I installed an Aube 120V Relay With Built In 24V Transformer so I could use a regular low voltage thermostat.
I installed a Honeywell PRO 1000 Vertical Non-Programmable Thermostat right above the Escape installed one for the furnace and A/C. I had Escape run a pair of control wires up to it during the build.
This was an easy mod, which took about 2 hours to do. I do plan to put a piece of our vinyl flooring inside on the shelf above the heater for easy cleaning. Here is a shot of the final product. I am contemplating painting the grille black, but that will come at a later time. Too much other stuff to do for now.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-28-2017, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Very nice Jim.
Where did you buy the heater?
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01-28-2017, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian G
Very nice Jim.
Where did you buy the heater?
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Thanks for reminding me Ian, I should have included this. It is one of the pricier ones out there, but it fit the bill. This is the only place I could find that would ship to Canada, otherwise there are a few other places that carry it. Myson is big into hydronic heaters too.
Myson E50 Electric Kickspace Heater. Myson Whispa E50 Floor Toe Kick
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01-28-2017, 08:51 PM
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I like it. Think there is much chance of inadvertently kicking the switches on the front, or is that a non problem?
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01-28-2017, 09:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
I like it. Think there is much chance of inadvertently kicking the switches on the front, or is that a non problem?
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It is a possibility, but they could take it, and would just have to be switched back to where you wanted again. The same with the push button on/off switch. I wasn't keen on having it, but it came standard.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-28-2017, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Front Range, Colorado
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Looks like a great location as some heat can go into the bathroom thru the gap in the lower part of the door.
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01-28-2017, 09:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Houston, Texas
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Jim,
This is great! I was wondering about the width of the step, you answered that. I'm so glad I'll have a trailer built by the folks at ETI, who are willing to do things like that. The job would have been much bigger if you had to build a wider step and run the wires yourself. With their help, it became an easy task. And such an elegant solution: out of the way, quiet, and thermostatically controlled. A great addition to a wonderful trailer.
I also love the fabric and flooring you choose. Very nice!
Rich
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01-29-2017, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReagentGrade
The job would have been much bigger if you had to build a wider step and run the wires yourself. With their help, it became an easy task. And such an elegant solution: out of the way, quiet, and thermostatically controlled.
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Rich, in my mind very much worth the $50 to run the wire. It takes them minutes, but would have taken me hours, with a few cuss words thrown in. And it is a great solution. One of the few 120V items we carried and used in campgrounds with hookups was a cube heater, and this will eliminate that and be right out of the way too.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-29-2017, 07:33 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
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Very nice!
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"Isn't it amazing how much stuff we get done the day before vacation?"
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01-29-2017, 08:14 AM
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Location: Houston, Texas
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$50 is a bargain! They could have gotten away with a larger charge and it still would be worthwhile.
I also have one of those come heaters. It's nice to be able to point them in any direction, but wherever to put them they always seem to be in the way.
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01-29-2017, 08:31 AM
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If I thought I could find material to rebuild the lower step I'd do this one. I've tried 3 different electric heaters and all have huge temp swings. If anyone knows where one can get a sheet of the wall board and some trim I'd appreciate it, without a 6000 drive.
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01-29-2017, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
If I thought I could find material to rebuild the lower step I'd do this one. I've tried 3 different electric heaters and all have huge temp swings. If anyone knows where one can get a sheet of the wall board and some trim I'd appreciate it, without a 6000 drive.
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Do you know anyone in your neck of the woods heading to the rally in Osoyoos? Reace or someone from Escape could bring the enough panel and trims to redo the step for you. I would likely have enough left over too. Mind you, the company that supplies Escape with these products is right here in Calgary, though not certain if they sell to the public.
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01-29-2017, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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When does the Bennett Traveling Escape Mod Ltd company start?
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01-29-2017, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
When does the Bennett Traveling Escape Mod Ltd company start?
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I first have to figure out how to bring all the needed tools with me. Easy here in Alberta where a double tow is allowed, but not so much in BC and a lot of other provinces and states.
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01-29-2017, 09:14 AM
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Well, you'll just have to get this one all finished, sell it, get a 21, and tow it with a BIG truck!!
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01-29-2017, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
Well, you'll just have to get this one all finished, sell it, get a 21, and tow it with a BIG truck!!
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Or, I could just retire like I keep talking about!
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01-29-2017, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Or, I could just retire like I keep talking about!
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Now THAT should move to the top of that too long To Do list!
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01-29-2017, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
My first modification to my new 5.0TA was to install an electric heater, so I could use it this winter as I do my other mods, and not put a strain on the propane supply. I had planned to do it anyway. My trailer is on the drive in front of my attached garage so quite handy to my workshop.
After a lot of looking and researching for a built in electric heater install, I settled on a Myson Whispa E50 Kickspace Fan Convector.
I decided on some kind of kickspace heater due to their low profile. I did not want to put a large grate on the wall in a space I could better use for cabinet storage. I looked at offerings from many companies, basically every model out there. I settled on the Myson E50 as it had a quiet squirrel cage fan, and two heat settings. Most heaters that offer multiple heat outputs have to be rewired inside the housing to accommodate the change, or one could go to the trouble to wire in a selector switch. The Myson E50 offered dual switches right on the front of the unit for selecting either 800 or 1600 Watts.
The 5.0TA offers the perfect location for the heater, in the bottom step to the loft. I had to have Escape build it a bit wider to comfortably house the heater. The depth of the step is fine as it is. Here is a shot before I cut out the hole to install the heater in.
This is a shot of the installed heater from above. There is a grate on the rear, as well as the one on the top for return air, which comes in both sides of the front grille. You can see the two cleats front and back I put in, where I will cut and put a plywood shelf so I can still stow things above the heater. The shelf is up a bit to allow good air circulation around the heater. Instead of wiring in a line voltage thermostat, I installed an Aube 120V Relay With Built In 24V Transformer so I could use a regular low voltage thermostat.
I installed a Honeywell PRO 1000 Vertical Non-Programmable Thermostat right above the Escape installed one for the furnace and A/C. I had Escape run a pair of control wires up to it during the build.
This was an easy mod, which took about 2 hours to do. I do plan to put a piece of our vinyl flooring inside on the shelf above the heater for easy cleaning. Here is a shot of the final product. I am contemplating painting the grille black, but that will come at a later time. Too much other stuff to do for now.
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01-29-2017, 11:23 AM
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I might have lied a bit on the time to install. I just realized I am not done yet, as I only did a temporary connection with the power for the heater until I figure out what circuit I would like to put it on.
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08-14-2017, 06:35 AM
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Location: Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
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Looks really nice. Congrats!
I have recently bought Marley QTS1504T electric kickspace heater. It installs under the cabinet lip and is out of side.
My drafty kitchen is a thing of the past. I also like the fact that it is unobtrusive, you really dont even know it's there!
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