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12-07-2018, 02:55 PM
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High lift axle
What is the maximum that a 17b can be raised without compromising stability?
I’m not asking about existing lift kits.
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12-07-2018, 03:02 PM
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I have to ask what you are trying to achieve?
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12-07-2018, 04:50 PM
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Maybe a monster Escape
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12-07-2018, 09:13 PM
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Maximum
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
What is the maximum that a 17b can be raised without compromising stability?
I’m not asking about existing lift kits.
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That would probably fall under the category of destructive testing. If you came up with a suspension system that would incrementally raise the Escape say two inches at a time. The maximum would be the previous setting before you rolled that little egg over. In the stock car days we used to say “She ran the best just before she blew”. So if you don’t have a special relationship with your insurance carrier, I probably say for economic reasons, the height that the factory lift kit when factory installed is the maximum safe and prudent height. YMMV
Iowa Dave
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12-08-2018, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
What is the maximum that a 17b can be raised without compromising stability?
I’m not asking about existing lift kits.
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Like Glenn, I too am curious about your query. If you don’t mind sharing, what is your thinking?
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12-10-2018, 07:42 PM
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I’m trying to keep the rear bumper from hitting the street going up a steep driveway.
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12-10-2018, 09:00 PM
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Maybe mount something like these on your back bumper?
https://www.etrailer.com/Skid-Wheels...48-979014.html
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12-10-2018, 09:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
Maybe mount something like these on your back bumper?
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I was thinking similar.. but mini-skid wheels welded to the frame.
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12-10-2018, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I was thinking similar.. but mini-skid wheels welded to the frame.
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Ooh, those look perfect!
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12-10-2018, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I was thinking similar.. but mini-skid wheels welded to the frame.
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I've had skid wheels like those on a cargo trailer. They work really well. Great suggestion.
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12-10-2018, 11:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
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Sure, but I think I would put them on the frame just ahead of the bumper, so they don't restrict the departure angle more than necessary.
Skid wheels will reduce damage, but may not really fix the problem.
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12-11-2018, 05:45 AM
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They have something for everything and someone on this forum knows about it .
Safe and happy holidays to all.
Steve
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12-11-2018, 07:04 AM
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This is where I captured the image of the mini-Skid wheels, if you care. They're surely available elsewhere too: Mini Weld-on Steel Skid Roller
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12-11-2018, 08:37 AM
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Etrailer has a bunch of different ones. This one attaches to a hitch mount (the bike rack on the back). Easy peasy.
https://www.etrailer.com/Skid-Wheels...48-979020.html
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12-11-2018, 03:14 PM
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Depending on the dip at the driveway entrance, the skid wheels could take a substantial upward force. I wouldn't want that applied at the bike rack receiver; the frame rails would be much better. Also, if not going straight across the dip, the rear corners could hit before a centrally-located wheel can help.
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12-11-2018, 04:33 PM
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I’m sure you tried backing up the driveway but if not.
Depending on the angles involved and the distance from the axle to the bumper, that may work.
Just have someone stand behind and watch.
If there are no curbs or shrubs, or such, obstructing you, hit the driveway at the sharpest possible angle like you do when entering a gas station or such.
Another way to raise the back is to lower the front. Get a drop-down type hitch. Use it when entering the driveway.
Good luck
Ed
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12-11-2018, 07:16 PM
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Another option is to build ramps that span the driveway to road juncture, flattening out the intersection as much as possible.
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12-13-2018, 12:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
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I believe the bumper will only allow 300 pounds.
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12-13-2018, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
Another option is to build ramps that span the driveway to road juncture, flattening out the intersection as much as possible.
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Busy street.
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12-13-2018, 03:40 PM
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I thought the bumper had a 300 pound load limit
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