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01-19-2017, 11:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
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High lift axle
What is involved with installing or modifying the axle with the high lift kit, to gain more bumper clearance. Is it easy enough to do? Where are these kits available? Has any member tried it?
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01-19-2017, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
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I had ETI do it as a refit. Came in handy in the Cupboard Mountains.
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01-20-2017, 02:38 AM
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Location: Juneau, Alaska
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Hey Mac,
I had a high lift axel installed during the build. Its OK but visually, it looks like those Geeks in school who had their pant cuffs about 3" above their shoes. Not talked about much around here ETI will install a 22.5 degree lift ... which is 1/2 way between 'no lift' and high lift. Amounts to about 1.5 inches difference.
Maybe this will help,
Tom
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01-20-2017, 06:05 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StarvingHyena
.... it looks like those Geeks in school who had their pant cuffs about 3" above their shoes.
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Tom, I'd be careful what you say. Methinks a few of those geeks are now Escape owners.
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01-20-2017, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
What is involved with installing or modifying the axle with the high lift kit, to gain more bumper clearance. Is it easy enough to do? Where are these kits available? Has any member tried it?
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There are several posts on lifts. Assuming the stock axle set up is conducive then it looks as simple as dropping the axle to insert spacer and rebolting everything back up. I believe that #10 Dexter axles are what Escape uses. I haven't read that any owner actually did the installation themselves, but it looks reasonable especially on a single axle trailer.
www.dexteraxle.com/torflex_lift_kit
http://www.dexteraxle.com/i/u/614960...x_Lift_Kit.pdf
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01-20-2017, 09:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
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We have a high lift axle on our present trailer and had the factory add it to our previous 16 ft Scamp when they replaced the axle.
As I've gotten older I've found that doing mods / repairs / maintenance under the trailer was much easier with the added ground clearance. We seldom boondock but I am sure the increased ground clearance will someday come in handy .
Scamp only charged us $200 to furnish and install the lift kit , which seemed reasonable to us .
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01-20-2017, 10:06 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Anacortes, Washington
Trailer: 2006 Escape 17
Posts: 58
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I installed the Dexter lift spacers on our Escape 19. Simple enough with a concrete floor and a couple of floor jacks and jack stands or blocks. Apply penetrating oil to the existing bolts now and when you start work, they'll be easier to remove, although with leverage, I had no issues at all.
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01-20-2017, 10:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StarvingHyena
Its OK but visually, it looks like those Geeks in school who had their pant cuffs about 3" above their shoes.
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you left out the pocket protector and pencils with a later upgrade to mechanical pencils...not to mention the slide rule in the back pocket with a later upgrade to a TI SR-10!
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01-20-2017, 10:39 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freespirit
you left out the pocket protector and pencils with a later upgrade to mechanical pencils...not to mention the slide rule in the back pocket!
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AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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01-20-2017, 10:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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Donna ; You have perfectly described my high school graduation picture.
I no longer have the glasses but I still have the slide rule , which my grandkids find fascinating but confusing because it doesn't have a battery.
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01-20-2017, 11:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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01-20-2017, 11:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
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not sure but it seems like another possible benefit of the high lift axle is that it would provide more space at the top between the dual axle tires and the body thus making it easier to use those X type or dual axle type chocks with the adjustment at the top if one wanted to?
perhaps also providing more space for tire chains/snow/ice/mud between the front and rear edges of the tire wheel well ..
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01-20-2017, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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Donna ; You have perfectly described my high school graduation picture.
I no longer have the glasses but I still have the slide rule , which my grandkids find fascinating but confusing because it doesn't have a battery.
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01-20-2017, 11:45 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
Donna ; You have perfectly described my high school graduation picture.
I no longer have the glasses but I still have the slide rule , which my grandkids find fascinating but confusing because it doesn't have a battery.
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I think I still have a slide rule in a box somewhere. I wonder if I can remember how to use it! OH and my abacus...the first calculator I think I owned!
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01-20-2017, 12:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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Did it recently but used a darker tape. So much more refined!
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01-20-2017, 02:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
There are several posts on lifts. Assuming the stock axle set up is conducive then it looks as simple as dropping the axle to insert spacer and rebolting everything back up. I believe that #10 Dexter axles are what Escape uses. I haven't read that any owner actually did the installation themselves, but it looks reasonable especially on a single axle trailer.
www.dexteraxle.com/torflex_lift_kit
http://www.dexteraxle.com/i/u/614960...x_Lift_Kit.pdf
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Thank you!!
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01-20-2017, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Houston, Texas
Trailer: '87 Bigfoot 20DLX 5er (sold) - 2017 Escape 5.0 TA: Sep-17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
AND the white adhesive tape on the bridge of glasses to hold them together!
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Gee Donna,
I thought you were a modern woman... Adhesive tape is so 20th Century! Duct tape is much better! AND you can get it in camo!!!
Rich
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01-20-2017, 07:43 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reagentgrade
gee donna,
i thought you were a modern woman... Adhesive tape is so 20th century! Duct tape is much better! And you can get it in camo!!!
Rich
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score!
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02-03-2017, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Front Range, Colorado
Trailer: 2017 5.0 TA picked up in July 2017.
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MPG penalty and other downsides with High Lift Axle?
Turning in my build list for a 5.0 TA early next week and I have been off and on about this. I have a 2010 F 150 with the 5.4 V8 and tow package so I don't get great mileage but I also think the difference between towing and non towing mileage is also less than the 2.7 and 3.5 Ecoboost models. No data to back this up though.
I'm trying to figure out what are the downsides to a high lift axle vs. benefits.
Benefits:
1. Easier to get under the trailer for maintenance, cleaning and perhaps adding 2 inch insulation at a future date.
2. Less bending over to attach sewer hoses and dump.
3. Less risk of road hazard damage to things sticking out under the trailer.
4. More room to add things like square or round tubes to carry goodies. (Which can also help hold up insulation?)
Penalty:
1. $300.00 ($225.00 US)
2. More wind resistance.
3. Lower gas mileage while towing. (but how much lower?) My thoughts are that on a 5.0 TA the penalty will be less than on a 21 or 19.
Does anyone on the forum have any MPG data from before and after adding the high lift kit?
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