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04-27-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by padlin
Some of the folks use a venting layer under the mattress to keep condensation from happening under and around it. If that's your concern it may work better then holes in the plywood. I forget the name of the product.
There are also folks who have put small vents in the under bed storage to keep that area vented. 2 different purposes.
We have a light over the table but it's not a 19, I use it for light purposes but I guess an added benny is helping to hold up the headliner, never really thought about it.
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One product called Dry Mesh , another Hyper Vent . Pat
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04-27-2016, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trav
We saw some posts that recommended adding a light above the dinette to help prevent headliner sagging. Is that a good idea?
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Well, I added a light over the dinette table, not because the headliner was sagging but because a light over the center of the table is so much better in some situations than lights behind you or off to the side.
Ron
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04-27-2016, 03:13 PM
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Interesting point (mold prevention) for me because when I went up into the cabinet over the sink last week to pull out some correlle plates I discovered black substance under them that I took to be mold. Removed everything up there and cleaned it al out but now wondering how it happened. Condensation? Giving thought to removing that cabinet door and taking out the center panel and replacing it with some stamped out metal pattern so air will freely circulate.
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04-27-2016, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Interesting point (mold prevention) for me because when I went up into the cabinet over the sink last week to pull out some correlle plates I discovered black substance under them that I took to be mold. Removed everything up there and cleaned it al out but now wondering how it happened. Condensation? Giving thought to removing that cabinet door and taking out the center panel and replacing it with some stamped out metal pattern so air will freely circulate.
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That is a great idea Myron and should work . Better then having your cabinet doors open , forgetting and knocking yourself out . Pat
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04-27-2016, 05:20 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Juneau, Alaska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Well, I added a light over the dinette table, not because the headliner was sagging but because a light over the center of the table is so much better in some situations than lights behind you or off to the side.
Ron
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I tried to get Escape to add a light over the table, but Reese said No can do. Was it difficult after the fact? I can't imagine it was easy with the headliner in place. What did you attach it to.
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04-27-2016, 07:15 PM
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No, not terribly difficult. Jim B. and others have done it also.
First I found the center line and made a cardboard template the size required for the base.
Then I cut the headliner and reflectix to expose the bare fiberglass.
I dropping the hatch frame and push a wire the size of a coathanger wire through and pulled the wires through.
I used the fan power as the power supply for the light.
I epoxied a 1/2" plywood base to the f.g. and installed the light.
Picture of the finished light with Jim B.'s favorite beverage
Did I mention I really like having it.
Ron
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04-27-2016, 08:04 PM
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Is that a jar of Ovaltine? Nice work.
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04-27-2016, 09:12 PM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Picture of the finished light with Jim B.'s favorite beverage
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What-evah! LOL
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04-28-2016, 09:23 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
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With the 2017 windows and me looking at thermal all around does choosing a non thermal opening bathroom window make sense coupled with a thermal opening window in the kitchen? I'm at the nickel and dimeing stage of my build sheet.
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04-28-2016, 09:33 AM
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Kitchen Window
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmoke
With the 2017 windows and me looking at thermal all around does choosing a non thermal opening bathroom window make sense coupled with a thermal opening window in the kitchen? I'm at the nickel and dimeing stage of my build sheet.
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I'm not at all sure what the options are with the frameless windows. Up to the 2016 model, if you chose an opening bathroom window it was single pane because of its type and size - frosted glass and quite small. With the new frameless windows, will an opening bathroom window be single pane also?
If it is, it's not a concern imho. Main reason we got it was to run a hose in to clean the black tank and to provide more natural light. The bathroom is going to be colder in cold weather anyway, because it's cut off from the main cabin air - unless you leave the door open to heat the whole space.
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04-28-2016, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Interesting point (mold prevention) for me because when I went up into the cabinet over the sink last week to pull out some correlle plates I discovered black substance under them that I took to be mold. Removed everything up there and cleaned it al out but now wondering how it happened. Condensation? Giving thought to removing that cabinet door and taking out the center panel and replacing it with some stamped out metal pattern so air will freely circulate.
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Myron,
Is it possible you put the dishes away while still wet? That happened once with me, washed and put away while packing up to leave, mold 2 weeks later. However never once has it happened with dry dishes left in o/h while camping over the winter.
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04-28-2016, 11:16 AM
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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What's mold?
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04-28-2016, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
What's mold?
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Hi: Greg A... That occurs when everything's to wet for dust!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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04-28-2016, 11:38 AM
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Not possible, Cp. First thing I noticed when pulling a box of Triscuit out was its box was very soft. That was odd, but then the dishes really set off alarms. Picture here is what I cleaned out of the cabinet floor.
Home Depot here doesn't carry them stamped sheet metal sheets we used to use when framing out radiators in the house. So at the shade department I found nice thin bamboo strip shades I am considering as a better looking insert.
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04-28-2016, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
What's mold?
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Same as mould, just spelled wrong.
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04-28-2016, 11:44 AM
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#36
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Same as mould, just spelled wrong.
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Jim wins the internet for a day.
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04-28-2016, 12:13 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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I remember a fella lived in OR that did exactly what you are talking about Myron to his Scamp 19. He used the decorative mesh screen and replaced the center section of the cabinet doors on the uppers with the screen. Came out really nice. Our home depot carries the decorative metal screen he used in brass or satin. It's usually at the end of the hardware aisle with the aluminum sheets and metal dowels and tubes.
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04-28-2016, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
I remember a fella lived in OR that did exactly what you are talking about Myron to his Scamp 19. He used the decorative mesh screen and replaced the center section of the cabinet doors on the uppers with the screen. Came out really nice. Our home depot carries the decorative metal screen he used in brass or satin. It's usually at the end of the hardware aisle with the aluminum sheets and metal dowels and tubes.
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Actually PeterH lives in Washington, but close enough!
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04-28-2016, 01:18 PM
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#39
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Ah, yes that's the trailer. Thanks, Donna.
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04-28-2016, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
I remember a fella lived in OR that did exactly what you are talking about Myron to his Scamp 19. He used the decorative mesh screen and replaced the center section of the cabinet doors on the uppers with the screen. Came out really nice. Our home depot carries the decorative metal screen he used in brass or satin. It's usually at the end of the hardware aisle with the aluminum sheets and metal dowels and tubes.
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A lot of boats use a plastic rattan insert to do the same thing. Looks nice and ventilates the cabinet/locker.
Ron
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