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Old 01-03-2019, 08:11 PM   #21
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I haven't had any problems with mine.
...and you now have the current sensor around the black wire so it reads your amps!
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:58 PM   #22
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Well, it has Manual Mode bypass, aka go out in the rain and unplug it.
Yes of course, but there is a nuance. The bypass mode on the hardwired unit like the HW30C still keeps the surge suppression functionality active. With the portables it is all or nothing.
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:57 PM   #23
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Yes of course, but there is a nuance. The bypass mode on the hardwired unit like the HW30C still keeps the surge suppression functionality active. With the portables it is all or nothing.

Yet another reason to prefer the built in unit. Also, no fears of it growing legs. Also, the remote readout on hardwired unit is useful for seeing current amp usage with different things on and off etc.
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:24 PM   #24
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Also, the remote readout on hardwired unit is useful for seeing current amp usage with different things on and off etc.
The portable PT30X actually has a scrolling display too. It is just a lot more inconvenient to go outside to the power post to read it.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:00 PM   #25
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The portable PT30X actually has a scrolling display too. It is just a lot more inconvenient to go outside to the power post to read it.


I have been working with a portable surge protector for four years, so a portable EMS upgrade should be just fine.

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I found some electrical connections were too low to use my portable EMS, so I'm glad to have the built in model.
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Old 01-05-2019, 07:24 AM   #27
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Much harder for the hard-wired one to "walk away". A big reason I went with it...less stuff to have to worry about and secure.
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same for the power cord, going to stick with the stock next time.
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re:" ...same for the power cord, going to stick with the stock next time."

Wow I never thought of that. When my factory power cord plastic port self-destructed after sustaining owners abuse I thought after searching for something more robustly made I thought I might go that route. I didn't -- replaced it with the same design. Has anyone actually had their power cord stolen?
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Mine was misplaced for awhile until I purchased a replacement, then the original showed up!!
I find that unless air conditioning is needed, that a 15 amp set up is adequate, smaller cord, easier to work with and allows more choices.
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re:" ...same for the power cord, going to stick with the stock next time."


Has anyone actually had their power cord stolen?

I’m sure there is a first time for everything, but after traveling full time for two years, we have not had a theft issue with our removable power cord.
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Yes of course, but there is a nuance. The bypass mode on the hardwired unit like the HW30C still keeps the surge suppression functionality active. With the portables it is all or nothing.

Hi Dave,

Well, I was about to pull the trigger on the Progressive Industries portable EMS unit until I saw your comment about the HW30C maintaining the surge suppression function active even though you are in bypass mode. I really like that!

So, gonna research this just a bit longer.

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I may just go ahead and order the hardwire version. But, I imagine that the reason for the bypass would be because of the internal components failing, and still allowing you to use the unit in surge protection mode, rather than ignoring the codes indicating faulty wiring. What do you think?

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I may just go ahead and order the hardwire version. But, I imagine that the reason for the bypass would be because of the internal components failing, and still allowing you to use the unit in surge protection mode, rather than ignoring the codes indicating faulty wiring. What do you think?

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You can use the bypass for either scenario, to turn off everything except surge protection should the unit develop a fault, or to ignore an error code that the unit is trying to protect you from.
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or if you ever run an generator you will need the bypass...
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or if you ever run an generator you will need the bypass...
Unless you buy or make a neutral bonding plug
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as I said, I have to use the bypass at home because the only outlet within reasonable extension cord range of where I park my trailer isn't grounded.
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Tell us more. We went portable instead of built in so we could plug the surge protector into the genset and not have to make a neutral bonding plug. What is a bypass and how do we make a neutral bonding plug? Guess we'd just plug directly to the genset when we need summertime A.C. when off the grid.
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Tell us more. We went portable instead of built in so we could plug the surge protector into the genset and not have to make a neutral bonding plug. What is a bypass and how do we make a neutral bonding plug? Guess we'd just plug directly to the genset when we need summertime A.C. when off the grid.
Made the plug for our generator. $5.

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Tell us more. We went portable instead of built in so we could plug the surge protector into the genset and not have to make a neutral bonding plug. What is a bypass and how do we make a neutral bonding plug? Guess we'd just plug directly to the genset when we need summertime A.C. when off the grid.
Not sure why you would need a protector with your generator, I'm sure it's output is relatively safe?
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