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Old 06-14-2020, 01:41 AM   #1
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Moldy mattress??

some months ago there was a thread about stuff to put under a mattress to prevent mold. In the RV. Can anyone remember what you used??
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Old 06-14-2020, 05:47 AM   #2
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Hypermesh or some variable of it here is a source that has been used by some owners
https://www.mattressinsider.com/matt...revention.html
you will want some around the exterior perimeter and underneath the mattress.
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Old 06-14-2020, 07:15 AM   #3
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Hypermesh or some variable of it here is a source that has been used by some owners
https://www.mattressinsider.com/matt...revention.html
you will want some around the exterior perimeter and underneath the mattress.
At $10 a linear foot ($3.07 sq/ft) I would consider Plastic Lattice at $17.98 for a 4' X 8' sheet ($0.56 sq/ft) instead.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Deckorators...ttice/50280313
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At $10 a linear foot ($3.07 sq/ft) I would consider Plastic Lattice at $17.98 for a 4' X 8' sheet ($0.56 sq/ft) instead.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Deckorators...ttice/50280313
How did you elevate to get sufficient air gap below lattice?
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How did you elevate to get sufficient air gap below lattice?
This isn't plastic, but, here's photos of wood lattice. The lattice slates create air channels when laid flat. And the every opening is an air pocket under the mattress.





Another alternative is the raised Ikea Bed Slats that GoCampBC recently posted on Facebook.



https://www.facebook.com/GoCampBC/ph...&theater&ifg=1

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/luroey-...base-00160215/

A queen bed is over 30 sq ft. The HYPERVENT AIRE-FLOW™ MOISTURE BARRIER would cost over $100 for the complete coverage under a Queen Mattress, $50 for the Ikea Bed Slats, or $36 for plastic lattice.

The Ikea Slats have added benefit of adding additional 'spring' to the bed, but, are more work to install.

The lattice is cheap and easy.

The Hypervent Aire-Flow is a waste of money IMHO.
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These options may help with air circulation under the mattress but building another wooden bed frame is adding a lot of weight. Besides, most mold is around the sides where it meets the exterior walls. Why not drill some vent holes underneath in the plywood and just install mesh around the exterior sides?
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I would recommend any product that supports mattress and provides an uninterrupted airspace that can allow an added insulative barrier at the warm to cold interface.My plan in trailer is to work towards having all surfaces, where possible, nonabsorbent.

I had a sailboat here on the PNW where condensation is a fighting battle. When I used hypervent it helped mildew on the underside of mattress. Painting plywood beneath with good marine paint eliminated the materials sucking up moisture. This really showed where the condensation occurred given body heat on mattress above. I found under my sleeping body posture that it was wettest under the core of my trunk.

Also painting cabinets, cubbies inside you found where dead air movement caused mildew. Trick is to keep air moving.
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Painting plywood beneath with good marine paint eliminated the materials sucking up moisture. This really showed where the condensation occurred given body heat on mattress above. I found under my sleeping body posture that it was wettest under the core of my trunk.

Also painting cabinets, cubbies inside you found where dead air movement caused mildew. Trick is to keep air moving.
I had already planned on painting the plywood under the dinette benches black for cosmetic purposes. I was thinking of painting under the bed white or black also for cosmetic purposes. Just another reason to do so.

I do like the Ikea Bed Slats so I'm probably going to add those for the box spring effect and the added air circulation.

The Ikea Queen size bed slats weight 22 lbs, plus a few more for the front, middle and back stringers to elevate them. Not significant weight IMO.
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E21C Ikea Slat Installation Pictures

Hello Holly:

To complement the nice picture of the Ikea Slat installation in an E19 above, FWIW, here's a couple of pictures of the installation we did in our E21C. Modification of the slat system is probably best done using a table saw if you wish to reduce the overall height (and some weight). I believe we reduced the overall height to ~7/8 inch. Two of the corners were modified to 45-degree angles to accommodate the bed shape. We also shortened slats on one side to fit. If you are unconcerned about the height, you could probably accomplish this without using a table saw. We do not routinely access the underbed area from the top given the presence of the slat system and weight of the mattress...

Also: We ultimately painted the outer frame of the slat system gray to give it a more finished look...

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I do like the Ikea Bed Slats so I'm probably going to add those for the box spring effect and the added air circulation.

The Ikea Queen size bed slats weight 22 lbs, plus a few more for the front, middle and back stringers to elevate them. Not significant weight IMO.
Looking at the Ikea bed slats, I saw this. For my 19 it would have to be modified for the curved rear corners. But, for the 21NE or the 5.0 maybe not.



https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/leirsun...able-50278335/

For $120 (still only weighs 35 lbs) for those rainy days when you're stuck inside it is tempting.
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Looks like an interesting option. Would want to confirm that the standard mattress supplied by ETI (if planning to use this) would flex enough to benefit from the possibility of raising the head of the bed. I think this may be a relatively new option available from Ikea? In any case this might be a great choice for those who use CPAP or BIPAP or otherwise prefer head elevation when sleeping. Would probably work great with custom foam mattresses.
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Looking at the Ikea bed slats, I saw this. For my 19 it would have to be modified for the curved rear corners. But, for the 21NE or the 5.0 maybe not.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/leirsun...able-50278335/

For $120 (still only weighs 35 lbs) for those rainy days when you're stuck inside it is tempting.
States in the description that it is only to be used with foam or latex mattress, would not be a fit with the ETI supplied mattress.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:24 PM   #13
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Question Sail-rite??

Has anyone used the "Moisture Prevention Underliner Fabric" sold by Sail-Rite?
This is a marine-grade product and has 2 relatively smooth sides.
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underliners??

You folks w underliners..do you use or not use a mattress cover as well??
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some months ago there was a thread about stuff to put under a mattress to prevent mold. In the RV. Can anyone remember what you used??
See Froli Travel System and Wool Mattress posts.

We enjoy our sleeping setup, and the Froli Travel is a highly customizable under mattress support system.

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I use a Hypervent Aire-Flow moisture barrier from Mattress Insider. https://www.mattressinsider.com/matt...revention.html


I just cut it to fit and laid it down and it works great! It can be a bit scratchy so make sure that side is facing away from the mattress.
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I use a Hypervent Aire-Flow moisture barrier from Mattress Insider. https://www.mattressinsider.com/matt...revention.html


I just cut it to fit and laid it down and it works great! It can be a bit scratchy so make sure that side is facing away from the mattress.
Yes the smooth side against the mattress and the rough side facing out, to allow air circulation. But I reverse that around the sides so as not to scratch the wall liner but sill allow air.
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See Froli Travel System and Wool Mattress posts.

We enjoy our sleeping setup, and the Froli Travel is a highly customizable under mattress support system.

73/gus
Your kidding, right?

Your Bed Solution:

+ 2,185.00 Holy Lamb Organics mattress
+ 378.00 Frolli support
+ 2,075.00 Heaven Luxury Supreme topper
+ 139.00 Holy Lamb Organics pillow
+ 139.00 Holy Lamb Organics pillow
+ 489.00 Holy Lamb Organics comforter
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+ 5,405.00 USD
* 1.36 exchange rate Jul 1, 2020
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+ 7,350.80 CAD

Note:
All queen size.
Shipping not included.
Financing available @ Holly Lamb Organics


Our Bed Solution:

+ 100.00 IKEA LÍNSET Slatted base
+ 279.00 IKEA MORGEDAL Foam mattress
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+ 379.00 CAD
* 0.74 exchange rate Jul 1, 2020
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+ 280.46 USD

Note:
Queen size priced.
Current sales prices notwithstanding.
MORGEDAL available in two comfort levels (firmness).
Bedding & pillows on hand.
Shipping not required.
Financing not required.

The above is basically the same as our home bed solution, but with a thinner mattress due to height restrictions in the Escape 5.0 (single axle). I've priced a queen, but actually, a double is what fits the 5.0 due to length limitations.

We're comfortable, and absolutely zero condensation issues. I guess it's got to due with what one has become accustomed to.
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Yes - a great sleep system

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Your kidding, right? We're comfortable, and absolutely zero condensation issues. I guess it's got to due with what one has become accustomed to.
Nope, not kidding. Would highly recommend this system to anyone.

Our system is the most comfortable sleeping system we've ever found for an RV. The topper is made in UK, and the rest are made in CA, OR, or WA. All materials are natural fibers. We especially like the wool products, our favorite natural material.

We all have our ideas of where to invest.

Glad you are happy with your sleep system. We are extremely happy with ours.

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Moisture Prevention

I purchased the Aire-Flow and mattress encasement from Mattress Insider. I simply cut the material and placed on plywood under mattress rough side down.
The link should get you a 5% discount http://mattressinsider.refr.cc/douglasb
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