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06-09-2020, 02:36 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: White Lake, Ontario
Trailer: 2022 Escape 5.0 TA currently in "The Build Queue"
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I may have found one solution for those of us who are a bit challenged making a bed in any circumstances or restrictions.
Costly though it may be, this bedding may actually get my other half making the bed in our RV.
beddys.com
https://youtu.be/fIGA3jhnKjg
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06-09-2020, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
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Originally Posted by LaurieB
Using a double flat sheet and comforter/duvet over the queen mattress makes perfect sense. We really only need enough to hang down the sides of the mattress instead of having it pillowing on the floor.
As long as the foot of the bed is tucked in, we would be golden.
Good solution.
Thanks again Ronn
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Picture for reference
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06-09-2020, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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For us the biggest challenge is making the bed the first time after washing the sheets. Normal morning routine is not so hard. The key as others have mentioned is to have everything tucked in at the bottom. As each of us get ready to rise, we pull the top sheet and quilt taunt on our side toward the front. Then the last person can fairly easily kneel with one knee on either side as they smooth everything out. Quilts tend to lay flat anyway so that makes a difference too.
When I first bought the 5.0 I planned on adding Ikea slats under it to add ventilation like we did on our 19'. But as it turns out, with the carpeted floor and air space all around, moisture has not been an issue. We are mindful of keeping the mattress pulled down tight toward the foot so there is a gap between the head and the front wall. Sometimes if conditions are right we get a little moisture on the pillows but not too much. They dry pretty quickly.
My wife made this quilt with wool batting instead of the traditional cotton. We also have a sleeping bag that opens flat for those really cold nights.
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06-09-2020, 06:27 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: White Lake, Ontario
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Thanks to everyone for your input and great advice.
Those look like perfectly made-up beds Ronn and Arnie ... Or ... Should I be congratulating your wives?!?
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06-09-2020, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaurieB
Thanks to everyone for your input and great advice.
Those look like perfectly made-up beds Ronn and Arnie ... Or ... Should I be congratulating your wives?!?
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Sounds like Arnie can take some of the credit for a tidy bed, as for me, Colleen gets the credit.
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06-09-2020, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
as it turns out, with the carpeted floor and air space all around, moisture has not been an issue. We are mindful of keeping the mattress pulled down tight toward the foot so there is a gap between the head and the front wall. Sometimes if conditions are right we get a little moisture on the pillows but not too much. They dry pretty quickly.
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Our experience is very similar to yours. I noticed moisture at the front of the mattress once, so now we try to keep it pulled down toward the stairs a half inch or so. Haven't noticed any moisture since.
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06-09-2020, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronn
Sounds like Arnie can take some of the credit for a tidy bed, as for me, Colleen gets the credit.
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06-09-2020, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaurieB
Thanks to everyone for your input and great advice.
Those look like perfectly made-up beds Ronn and Arnie ... Or ... Should I be congratulating your wives?!?
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I generally make it the first time after laundry as part of prepping the trailer. (Paula is consumed with menu planning, provisioning.)
While camping, I usually am up first as I make the coffee so she makes the bed once coffee is ready and I have taken the morning chill off with the furnace.
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06-10-2020, 01:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
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We have the twin beds, I believe they are 30" X 80". We keep them 4 or 5" from the walls and that leaves about 15" of space in the middle. Easy to exit without disturbing the other, easy to make the bed.
With the twin beds you will lose the cubbies but not the cabinets. The Escape mattresses are 8" deep. We found them uncomfortable so we added 3" memory foam toppers(Queen size cut in half with a bread knife). Adding the toppers has moved us that much closer to the cabinets, but it really hasn't been an issue. We don't seem to bump our heads. Width wise the 30" is no problem and quite comfortable, our old Roadtrek had 28" mattresses! Remember there is space on either side of the mattress for arms or shoulders to over hang.
Sheets and mattress covers were a bit of a challenge. We found some custom sized bedding on Amazon. It arrived at our door from India within four days of the order and is of good quality.
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06-10-2020, 06:11 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaurieB
We're still $$saving$$ and researching for our dream purchase of a 5.0 TA ... Or perhaps a much anticipated 25 foot fifth wheel from Escape ... A definite game changer in our household!
We currently own an older stick built fifth wheel, with a low loft bedroom.
It can 'just' accommodate a double bed on an Ikea bed frame. To say the least, making up this bed is an 'interesting process' in the confined space. On some of our muggier summer days, I compare it to doing hot yoga!
With that in mind, the only concern I really have about the 5.0 is the mattress lying on the loft floor. My husband doesn't actually worry about this because he never makes the bed: A scenario that will not likely change in the 5.0!
I've read in at least one forum about the difficulty of lifting the bed onto a frame, due to the height and slope of the ceiling, but wondered if this low profile (5" high) bed frame might work?
https://www.wayfair.ca/furniture/pdp...001309312.html
We're considering a double bed instead of a queen, which would give us some wiggle room to move it away from the front of the trailer. The weight of the double frame is approximately 25.5 lbs.
I would appreciate any comments or advice from current 5.0 owners.
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🤔Not seeing any advantage here and a disadvantage for getting in and out, especially if youre vertically challenged. And if youre on the taller end of the human spectrum you may be uncomfortably close to the ceiling when sitting up.
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06-10-2020, 07:06 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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We use a Trailer-va-sak bed system, similar to sleeping bags with a winter and summer side. Thrown on top of a mattress cover it simplifies keeping the bed neat.
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06-10-2020, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Lakewood, Colorado
Trailer: 2018 5.0TA 'Liberty'
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
We use a Trailer-va-sak bed system, similar to sleeping bags with a winter and summer side. Thrown on top of a mattress cover it simplifies keeping the bed neat.
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We have had a Trava-sac system since the mid 90's and are still using it. We used it in our 2 hallmark campers, in our Arctic Fox 27-5L, and now in the 5,0TA. We have found it easy to use and no downside. We place a fitted sheet on the mattress for color and just toss the Trava-sac on top.
It is essentially 2 different weight sleeping bags zipped together. Summer side up or Winter side up your choice. It has a one piece sheet that Velcro's to the inside of the bag and can be removed for washing. The entire bag can be washed too if your machine in large enough.
They have sold out to another company but they still have sheets available.
RVSuperbag.com
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2018 5.0TA
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06-10-2020, 09:33 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
For us the biggest challenge is making the bed the first time after washing the sheets. Normal morning routine is not so hard. The key as others have mentioned is to have everything tucked in at the bottom. As each of us get ready to rise, we pull the top sheet and quilt taunt on our side toward the front. Then the last person can fairly easily kneel with one knee on either side as they smooth everything out. Quilts tend to lay flat anyway so that makes a difference too.
When I first bought the 5.0 I planned on adding Ikea slats under it to add ventilation like we did on our 19'. But as it turns out, with the carpeted floor and air space all around, moisture has not been an issue. We are mindful of keeping the mattress pulled down tight toward the foot so there is a gap between the head and the front wall. Sometimes if conditions are right we get a little moisture on the pillows but not too much. They dry pretty quickly.
My wife made this quilt with wool batting instead of the traditional cotton. We also have a sleeping bag that opens flat for those really cold nights.
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Hi: arniesea... You can do what we did, and add a small dia. cheap pool noodle to the space at the head of the bed. Lay it on the floor so it stops the mattress from shifting forward!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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06-10-2020, 11:05 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mswan
We have the twin beds, I believe they are 30" X 80". We keep them 4 or 5" from the walls and that leaves about 15" of space in the middle. Easy to exit without disturbing the other, easy to make the bed.
With the twin beds you will lose the cubbies but not the cabinets. The Escape mattresses are 8" deep. We found them uncomfortable so we added 3" memory foam toppers(Queen size cut in half with a bread knife). Adding the toppers has moved us that much closer to the cabinets, but it really hasn't been an issue. We don't seem to bump our heads. Width wise the 30" is no problem and quite comfortable, our old Roadtrek had 28" mattresses! Remember there is space on either side of the mattress for arms or shoulders to over hang.
Sheets and mattress covers were a bit of a challenge. We found some custom sized bedding on Amazon. It arrived at our door from India within four days of the order and is of good quality.
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Thanks for answering that concern Murray, I imagine it is like the short lower step, we each missed it once (actually more than just a bump) but now we seem to have adjusted and find it is not a problem for us at all. BUT I can't say the same for the door, I seem to bump my head at least once every trip. My theory doesn't seem to hold water in that case - maybe I just need to hit it harder for it to get ingrained.
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06-10-2020, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: arniesea... You can do what we did, and add a small dia. cheap pool noodle to the space at the head of the bed. Lay it on the floor so it stops the mattress from shifting forward!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Thanks Alf for adding this to my to do list. Great solution as the mattress tends to move forward as we travel.
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06-10-2020, 12:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronn
BUT I can't say the same for the door, I seem to bump my head at least once every trip. My theory doesn't seem to hold water in that case - maybe I just need to hit it harder for it to get ingrained.
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My dad in his 70's and 80's always had scabs on the top of his head. I bought him a hard hat. Fast forward 30 years and guess what?
Yup, that door keeps teaching me the same thing, over and over again! I'm waiting for my son to buy me that hard hat.
Enjoy,
Perry
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06-10-2020, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perryb67
My dad in his 70's and 80's always had scabs on the top of his head. I bought him a hard hat. Fast forward 30 years and guess what?
Yup, that door keeps teaching me the same thing, over and over again! I'm waiting for my son to buy me that hard hat.
Enjoy,
Perry
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Hi: Perryb67... It all comes down to one word..."DUCK"!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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06-10-2020, 02:50 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: arniesea... You can do what we did, and add a small dia. cheap pool noodle to the space at the head of the bed. Lay it on the floor so it stops the mattress from shifting forward!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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06-10-2020, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: arniesea... You can do what we did, and add a small dia. cheap pool noodle to the space at the head of the bed. Lay it on the floor so it stops the mattress from shifting forward!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Some people will say that is "using your noodle"............
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06-10-2020, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perryb67
My dad in his 70's and 80's always had scabs on the top of his head. I bought him a hard hat. Fast forward 30 years and guess what?
Yup, that door keeps teaching me the same thing, over and over again! I'm waiting for my son to buy me that hard hat.
Enjoy,
Perry
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I installed a new bathroom fan in my attic and had quite a few bumps on my knoggen when i was done. I purchased a "Bump" cap from Ergodyne. It is for light industrial and looks like a baseball cap. https://www.ergodyne.com/skullerz-8950-bump-cap.html
Much lighter and more stylish than a hard hat.
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