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06-07-2017, 09:30 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19
Posts: 67
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Just wondering, what is the advantage of having a detachable power cord? I find that shoving the cord into the mouse hole and snapping the cover shut pretty is pretty convenient compared to coiling up the cord and and stowing it somewhere else in the trailer or tow vehicle.
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Eric & Diana
2015 Escape 19, 2015 F150 Supercab White
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06-07-2017, 09:34 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 2,051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by etuna
Just wondering, what is the advantage of having a detachable power cord?
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This question has been debated many times on the forum. See here: http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f3...cord-8458.html
Forum members are in one camp or the other. As for me, I've had the connected power cord and opted for the removable one on my Escape...wouldn't go back for all the tea in China.
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Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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06-07-2017, 09:40 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Tim, the Furrion KIT includes an adapter plate. Covers the existing hole, uses the same screw holes. No drilling or other mods required. There's not even any caulk required, as was used with the original mouse hole, because a foam gasket is also included that seals the adapter plate. The hardest part of the install is removing all the factory caulk.
If you go with the Furrion, make sure it's the FCKIT-30PS. They sell the receptacles and the cord adapters separately also, but the kit has everything needed.
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looking at the pic one might easily see the difference inside of the Furion versus the Conntek. The Conntek has some small open spaces all the way thru the connector to the back that will allow water to pass thru if it gets inside the connector, which has been posted by one user of the Conntek on this forum when the cord was in it and the hatch open. The Furion has white plastic all the way around the receptacle part inside perhaps sealing it better and would help eliminate this possibility.
This camper if having Escape do it at build time would ship the Furion kit to Escape and have them install it thus not needing the adapter plate and get it done right IMHO the first time. The other advantage of course is the Furion kit provides a metal box for the inside of the fiberglass hull to mount the connector to providing probably a much more rigid mounting than the Conntek mounted to just the 1/8" fiberglass with no inside backing to provide rigidity and a tighter clamp seal on the outside.
just an opinion..YMMV
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06-07-2017, 01:41 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,544
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
This question has been debated many times on the forum. See here: http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f3...cord-8458.html
Forum members are in one camp or the other. As for me, I've had the connected power cord and opted for the removable one on my Escape...wouldn't go back for all the tea in China.
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I agree completely. I too am one who had an attached cord for many, many year, and switched over my 19 to a removable one. Would never consider going back. Much easier to use, no issue of having to deal with the space the fixed pushes into, no tangled cords, and no open hole in the side of the trailer when in use.
My only complaint. I didn't do it sooner.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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06-07-2017, 01:53 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Having had both types I'm in the Karen/Jim camp. First mod I make to any trailer that doesn't have a detachable and had the 19 built with detachable.
I'm the same now on the power tongue jack. Once you've had a power tongue jack you'll never go back.
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06-07-2017, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by etuna
Just wondering, what is the advantage of having a detachable power cord? I find that shoving the cord into the mouse hole and snapping the cover shut pretty is pretty convenient compared to coiling up the cord and and stowing it somewhere else in the trailer or tow vehicle.
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We have the standard cord and no problem with it, so no need to change it. If we still had a 19' though, big problem. If it gets caught, it is in a basically unreachable place to untangle. The 21' has no such problem.
We use malleable caulk around the cord when in use to seal the hole.
We have a crummy towel to wipe the cord while feeding in. Takes less than a minute.
Also only need a little of the cord out for some pedestals instead of dealing with a big one. We do carry an extra electrical cord for those times when ours is not long enough.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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06-07-2017, 02:54 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by float5
We have the standard cord and no problem with it, so no need to change it. If we still had a 19' though, big problem. If it gets caught, it is in a basically unreachable place to untangle. The 21' has no such problem.
We use malleable caulk around the cord when in use to seal the hole.
We have a crummy towel to wipe the cord while feeding in. Takes less than a minute.
Also only need a little of the cord out for some pedestals instead of dealing with a big one. We do carry an extra electrical cord for those times when ours is not long enough.
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Hi Cathy having the 19 and didn't have any problems until last year when we were in Washington , pouring rain , couldn't get the tangled cord out . Had to crawl under bed to untangle cord , that did it . Happy to change out to unattached cord system . Made a spare second cord out of the cut off cord from trailer . Never had in over 30 years this problem in other RV's . Those attached cords in previous RV's were in a enclosed poly plastic box , could reach in put your cord in and out and was sealed from living quarters . Escape cord is just going into big unconfined space . Problem . Couldn't find a source for poly box so , hence detachable system which in our opinion is the way to go with this trailer . Pat
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06-07-2017, 05:26 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Hi Cathy having the 19 and didn't have any problems until last year when we were in Washington , pouring rain , couldn't get the tangled cord out . Had to crawl under bed to untangle cord , that did it . Happy to change out to unattached cord system . Made a spare second cord out of the cut off cord from trailer . Never had in over 30 years this problem in other RV's . Those attached cords in previous RV's were in a enclosed poly plastic box , could reach in put your cord in and out and was sealed from living quarters . Escape cord is just going into big unconfined space . Problem . Couldn't find a source for poly box so , hence detachable system which in our opinion is the way to go with this trailer . Pat
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Yep, I know you needed that, Pat! No such deal with the 21' as it is under the bench. All 19' owners may like to have a detachable cord. Never thought I could reach in and do anything with it.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
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06-07-2017, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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I've never had my cord tangle, but I don't put anything under that bench.
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06-07-2017, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by float5
Yep, I know you needed that, Pat! No such deal with the 21' as it is under the bench. All 19' owners may like to have a detachable cord. Never thought I could reach in and do anything with it.
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Lucky yours is just under bench . Since you had the 19 , it is all the way to back , under bed . Required scooting on your back , getting to the back to reach and untangle the cord . What a pain in the a.. I don't care for confined spaces either , like I was in a tomb , buried . Not trying to be a wet blanket here but save others from this experience. Hence new attachable cord . Pat
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06-07-2017, 08:16 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Lucky yours is just under bench . Since you had the 19 , it is all the way to back , under bed . Required scooting on your back , getting to the back to reach and untangle the cord . What a pain in the a.. I don't care for confined spaces either , like I was in a tomb , buried . Not trying to be a wet blanket here but save others from this experience. Hence new attachable cord . Pat
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The couple of times it happened to us, I used a broom handle to try and untangle it from the access hatch on the other side of the trailer. A PITA, but it worked. Now with a detachable, no worries.
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06-07-2017, 09:23 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I've never had my cord tangle, but I don't put anything under that bench.
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It looks tangled!
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06-07-2017, 09:48 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
The couple of times it happened to us, I used a broom handle to try and untangle it from the access hatch on the other side of the trailer. A PITA, but it worked. Now with a detachable, no worries.
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Robert couldn't do that . I had enclosed both sides with 1/8 in ply and needed to undo screws to get that off first . When we got home the cord was all the way to other side of trailer tangled so I thought that would take care of it ,enclosing the cord . It did for a couple of years . But with the cold and cord wasn't new anymore it was really a tangled mess . Happy with unattached cord set now . Once you have you never go back . When I got home you gave me the inspiration to go unattached cord set . Pat
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06-08-2017, 09:01 AM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Lake Worth, Florida
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 58
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I thought I was firmly in the "attached cord" camp, but you all have convinced me to cut the cord and I have placed an order for the one on sale at CW.
I used to be part of the "manual jack" camp also, but after going with a power jack I am very glad I converted. I am gradually learning that change can be good!
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06-08-2017, 09:07 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,544
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaGman
I am gradually learning that change can be good!
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It is amazing how tough it is for many to accept this.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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06-08-2017, 09:14 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,043
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One of my favorite sayings... and I think it applies to change:
"Don't look back, you're not going that way."
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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06-08-2017, 09:36 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Durham, North Carolina
Trailer: Escape 1721
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
One of my favorite sayings... and I think it applies to change:
"Don't look back, you're not going that way."
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I like this. It is so true.
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06-08-2017, 12:51 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaGman
I thought I was firmly in the "attached cord" camp, but you all have convinced me to cut the cord and I have placed an order for the one on sale at CW.
I used to be part of the "manual jack" camp also, but after going with a power jack I am very glad I converted. I am gradually learning that change can be good!
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Way to go, Garland!
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06-10-2017, 04:27 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, Texas
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21, 2017 Toyota Tundra 5.7L 4x4
Posts: 549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by float5
We use malleable caulk around the cord when in use to seal the hole.
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Cathy, What is the malleable caulk that you use to seal the hole? On our Casita we currently use a black rubber piece that seals the cord hole, but our Escape will have a different size cord hole.
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