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06-05-2016, 07:17 PM
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Springfield table post mod
Josie and I purchased a Springfield pedestal at the beginning of May and installed it before we left on our 6 month trip to the West coast. As we been traveling and using the table we found that during the course of a day it would very slowly slide down . So now we are in Banff for a few days I had time to do a simple on the road mod. Several times during our trip I adjusted the top clamp and it would work for a few days but still slid down but slower. If I adjusted the clamp too tight the top would be hard to pivot. Today I went to the hardware store and bought a 3" piece of ABS pipe and two hose clamps. Back at the campsite I cut a 3" wide vertical section out of the pipe and snapped it over the upper section of the table base . We been using the table with no downward slide this afternoon. As it turned out I did'nt need the hose clamps after all .
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06-05-2016, 07:27 PM
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Necessity is the mother of invention.....nice work.
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06-05-2016, 09:14 PM
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Have never had the table up long enough to notice, but if no one else has had this happen then it may be a defect in the pedestal.
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06-05-2016, 09:25 PM
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Springfield table post mod
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Have never had the table up long enough to notice, but if no one else has had this happen then it may be a defect in the pedestal.
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I was thinking along the same lines. Sounds like the table lost pressure. Ours raises with quite a bit of pneumatic force, and you have to put a good amount of force on the table to lower it.
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06-07-2016, 10:54 AM
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The mod we created to keep the table at it's correct height is working out very well. Reading the answers in this thread got me thinking that the base might be defective. I spoke with the company I purchased the base from and they were willing to take care of the problem such as sending a new base if needed. We are still on the road in Canada and won't be home till mid November to make the switch. Sitting here this morning I decided to call Springfield Marine and spoke to their customer service department as it turns out our base is fine and works as it should. The base is not made to swivel but to be stationary when fixed at the proper height. The top will swivel when slightly loose allowing it to turn. So having the top swivel allows it to slowly retract downward .
So the answer is this mod is a success . Now onward to new mods.
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06-07-2016, 12:13 PM
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Clever mod
I bought a Springfield and I'm still thinking about how I want to mount our full size table to keep it sliding and it's current height.
It looks like you have the U dinette & it's smaller table... Do you rotate instead of slide your table & did you build up the mount to achieve the table height you want?
Thanks,
paul
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06-07-2016, 12:34 PM
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Paul, yes we have the smaller table and with the mod we are able to swivel the top and also slide it front to back using the factory slide system . We have kept the post fully extended and the mod allows us to swivel easily . The ABS 3" pipe section is cut to 8 5/8 tall with a 3" slot cut out of it so it can snap on and off with some effort but easy. You could cut the pipe shorter if needed for a lower height. With the table up it's at 29 1/2" high.
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06-07-2016, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2yax2go
Paul, yes we have the smaller table and with the mod we are able to swivel the top and also slide it front to back using the factory slide system . We have kept the post fully extended and the mod allows us to swivel easily . The ABS 3" pipe section is cut to 8 5/8 tall with a 3" slot cut out of it so it can snap on and off with some effort but easy. You could cut the pipe shorter if needed for a lower height. With the table up it's at 29 1/2" high.
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Thanks!
The bottom surface of our table is 31 1/2", so I need to add 2" to the height of the Springfield or raise the floor that much to get to the bottom of the ETI slider.
I've tried to contact Dicor to purchase their 4 way slider before I do anything, but they don't seem to be interested in retail sales .
EDIT:
I guess I take that last sentence back - I was just able to contact the right guy at Dicor and ordered the 4 way slide
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06-07-2016, 02:26 PM
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Very good on the slide. We like the lower height and find it more comfortable it at standard table height. We might add a second slide above the escape slide to have a complete setup but it will add another inch in height. The second slide will wait till we get back home.
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06-16-2016, 09:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulw
Thanks!
The bottom surface of our table is 31 1/2", so I need to add 2" to the height of the Springfield or raise the floor that much to get to the bottom of the ETI slider.
I've tried to contact Dicor to purchase their 4 way slider before I do anything, but they don't seem to be interested in retail sales .
EDIT:
I guess I take that last sentence back - I was just able to contact the right guy at Dicor and ordered the 4 way slide
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Assembled the Springfield/Dicor/Full size table - It works slick
It's just tacked down so I could play with it....Heading up to ETI Weds to get the dinette floor raised.
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06-16-2016, 09:32 PM
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Cool-i-O! Love da Springfield & Slide combo
While your there they may do some Q.C. like thy did for us. Among other things they drilled two small holes in the escape window frame near bottom to let standing water drain.
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06-17-2016, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Cool-i-O! Love da Springfield & Slide combo
While your there they may do some Q.C. like thy did for us. Among other things they drilled two small holes in the escape window frame near bottom to let standing water drain.
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Al the windows or a specific one?
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06-17-2016, 01:40 PM
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The rear "escape" window on the drivers side holds water due to the shape of the trailer so drilling some 1/8" holes from the inside out thru the outer frame allows water to drain out...
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06-17-2016, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
Al the windows or a specific one?
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It was the escape hatch window, which doesn't have the weep holes the other ones do. I used to see some standing water back there after some rain. Will have to check it next time it does- who knows when that will be though
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06-17-2016, 03:00 PM
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Thanks, I can drill a couple holes. Maybe I'll take a hose to it and see what it does, or doesn't.
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07-01-2016, 03:54 PM
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We also want to use the pedestal with a full size table in our 21. We plan to turn the table 90 degrees to the standard install so that it is easier to sit back against the cushions while 2 people using the table. Seeing that the pedestal (Springfield AND Dicor) will rotate when loosened means that we could also use the table as a bed platform per the original design.
Does the table wobble at all? With or without the ETI slide? with or without the Dicor slide?
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07-01-2016, 06:23 PM
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With the ETI slide and Springfield pedestal we get no wobble.
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07-01-2016, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
With the ETI slide and Springfield pedestal we get no wobble.
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Same here . Pat
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07-01-2016, 06:42 PM
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With the table being 34" wide I believe you would only have about 12" of space left to sit if you turn the table sideways.
Most get the Springfield to make it easier to lower it into the bed position instead of pulling the table out of its twin sockets and storing the poles. That full-size table is somewhat heavy & awkward to do the above- especially solo.
As to wobble- the standard dinette the table is larger & heavier than the U-shape and that extra mass doesn't help. The Dicor slide is more rigid being a 23x34" aluminum frame vs. a 12x12"(unless its larger for standard d.) plywood with plastic slides. Our custom 22x27" table has virtually no wobble with the Springfield/Dicor combo. Most of the wobble people experience is from the stock two-pole setup in the doughnuts as they are not fixed in place.
Edit: Good to hear Bob & Pat have no wobble with full-size & ETI slide. That's what I would start with- you can always add the Dicor later, but it seems to be more beneficial with a smaller table in a U-shape dinette.
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07-01-2016, 06:55 PM
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I would agree with that Ross. The ability to slide 4 ways is really only a benefit with the cut down table and the U shape. We just use the stock mount with the Springfield and no wobble. The ability to rotate the table is the best feature.
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