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07-23-2022, 07:09 AM
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Wanted: someone to do extensive mods
Hello all,
My 5.0 is due to be completed mid-Sept - mid-Oct. I'm wanting someone to do some pretty extensive mods as y'all here keep giving me great ideas. I'm located near Pittsburgh, & am hoping to find someone within a 3 hour radius (would include Columbus, Cleveland, Erie, & Harrisburg along with much of W VA & MD, & a bit of VA). Ideally, one person/shop would do it all: carpentry, electrical, plumbing - a bit of everything. Any suggestions will be much appreciated!
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07-23-2022, 07:49 AM
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Depending on what you want it doesn’t have to be an RV specific business. Also, you might want to use it some first and make notes so you know how you use it.
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07-23-2022, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brroberts
Depending on what you want it doesn’t have to be an RV specific business. Also, you might want to use it some first and make notes so you know how you use it.
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excellent advice. I see a number of mods folks have done and while I really like them at first blush, I realize the way I use my trailer, the mod(s) isn't needed.
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07-23-2022, 09:52 AM
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I would be glad to help, I have most of the tools and I am retired. I'm not too far from you either.
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07-23-2022, 11:25 AM
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Location: East of Austin, Texas
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Originally Posted by Lorraine Pittsburgh
Ideally, one person/shop would do it all: carpentry, electrical, plumbing - a bit of everything. Any suggestions will be much appreciated!
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Having seen some of your modification goals in our off-forum exchanges ( quite extensive custom cabinetry) .... you might shop among tradespeople in the marine sailing craft custom restoration / repair arena. They're used to light-weight but robust construction in the other-than-square 'mobile' context, 12VDC systems, etc (quite similar to the situations in our Escape trailers).
Similarly, folks working in the arena of custom restorations / repurposing of classic RV's.
Both of the above are small-niche markets, few-and-far-between, and justifiably expensive for the rather unique services they can deliver.
IMO Jim Bennett's Cabinetry Work In My 5.0TA, though different in detail, is the sole example on this forum of completed work approaching the overall scope of work and crafts involved with your project (as I last saw it) and meeting your likely expectations in terms of quality of the end result.
Personally, I've never encountered a shop in the primary business of day-to-day contemporary RV maintenance and repair with the capabilities I think you seek / need to meet your expectations.
Good Luck!
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07-23-2022, 11:29 AM
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indeed, a good marine repair guy is awesome, but $$$$$$.
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07-24-2022, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Allison Park, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brroberts
Depending on what you want it doesn’t have to be an RV specific business. Also, you might want to use it some first and make notes so you know how you use it.
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
excellent advice. I see a number of mods folks have done and while I really like them at first blush, I realize the way I use my trailer, the mod(s) isn't needed.
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Thanks so much for these thoughts. I've already scaled back my original wish list with this in mind. With this input, I'll revisit that list to be 100% sure of what I want in my first round of gotta-have mods, & leave any that are questionable until a later round.
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Lorraine from Pittsburgh
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07-24-2022, 07:10 AM
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Allison Park, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
indeed, a good marine repair guy is awesome, but $$$$$$.
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Originally Posted by Centex
Having seen some of your modification goals in our off-forum exchanges ( quite extensive custom cabinetry) .... you might shop among tradespeople in the marine sailing craft custom restoration / repair arena. They're used to light-weight but robust construction in the other-than-square 'mobile' context, 12VDC systems, etc (quite similar to the situations in our Escape trailers).
Similarly, folks working in the arena of custom restorations / repurposing of classic RV's.
Both of the above are small-niche markets, few-and-far-between, and justifiably expensive for the rather unique services they can deliver.
IMO Jim Bennett's Cabinetry Work In My 5.0TA, though different in detail, is the sole example on this forum of completed work approaching the overall scope of work and crafts involved with your project (as I last saw it) and meeting your likely expectations in terms of quality of the end result.
Personally, I've never encountered a shop in the primary business of day-to-day contemporary RV maintenance and repair with the capabilities I think you seek / need to meet your expectations.
Good Luck!
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Thank you both for these thoughts. There's a place in Ohio that does custom RV work. After I got my head around their hourly rate, I talked with their rep & sent them a list of my desired mods. They only want to do the interior items. Was hoping for a one-stop shop. Assume that the fiberglass on the exterior scared them away on that piece.
With our rivers, we have a surprising number of boats around here, so I'll look into a marine/boat renovation shop - excellent advice!
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Lorraine from Pittsburgh
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07-24-2022, 07:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Allison Park, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I would be glad to help, I have most of the tools and I am retired. I'm not too far from you either.
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Hi Jim,
This is a VERY generous offer. I'll get in touch offline to discuss. As Centex mentioned, there's extensive cabinetry work involved, so you would have to come out of retirement for a while!
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Lorraine from Pittsburgh
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07-24-2022, 08:31 AM
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Location: Ladysmith, British Columbia
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You noted extensive cabinetry work so here's my 2 cents.
Ensure that your alterations maintain the structural integrity and weight balance of the trailer. Storage should respect weight distribution. Try to have interior components for electrical, plumbing, etc. accessible after build. Taste is up to owners but I like having the mods look stock as though it was provided by manufacturer. Sometimes even better. If you want to keep it looking stock with finish, try to have ETI provide building materials they use, like moulding, panelling, lights and load in trailer when you pick up.
Be careful with who you get and look at some of their work. Remember this is not a house.
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07-24-2022, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centex
IMO Jim Bennett's Cabinetry Work In My 5.0TA, though different in detail, is the sole example on this forum of completed work approaching the overall scope of work and crafts involved with your project
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Not so: Jim alluded to taking his cue from Chris R:
https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...ions-5335.html
I liked Jim's statement in his cabinet build thread: "I knew I wanted to do a bunch of work to the trailer “Because I can."
Chris R is a cabinet maker and did a previous cabinet build on a 17B as well.
Jim Bennett is also in the trade with a workshop.
They both had the advantage of being able to take their time and do it to their exacting requirements. And they both probably did a bit of do-over or at least changes in design or materials as they went.
I was wanting to do a pair of simple storage cabinets over my van's wheel wells and thought I wanted a framework made of tig welded aluminum. Without a set of plans most didn't want to consider it. The one who did estimated a lot more that I predicted it would cost. So I then went to plan B and did it myself with aluminum angle and some wood together. Works incredibly well at a fraction of the cost and can be modified easily if needed.
Seems to me to do something along the likes of what Chris & JIm did would be in the neighborhood of $20K+ when you figure in someone actually drawing plans first.
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07-24-2022, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Near Asheville, North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorraine Pittsburgh
Hello all,
My 5.0 is due to be completed mid-Sept - mid-Oct. I'm wanting someone to do some pretty extensive mods as y'all here keep giving me great ideas. I'm located near Pittsburgh, & am hoping to find someone within a 3 hour radius (would include Columbus, Cleveland, Erie, & Harrisburg along with much of W VA & MD, & a bit of VA). Ideally, one person/shop would do it all: carpentry, electrical, plumbing - a bit of everything. Any suggestions will be much appreciated!
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It should help to get with someone early, to get feed back on what might even be ordered, or not ordered on your built, in the 1st place. Plus buying some of the materials to put IN the the trailer at delivery.
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07-24-2022, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: USA, Texas
Trailer: 21
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Originally Posted by Chasing Trials
It should help to get with someone early, to get feed back on what might even be ordered, or not ordered on your built, in the 1st place. Plus buying some of the materials to put IN the the trailer at delivery.
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Agree buying extra paneling to be delivered with trailer purchase is the way to go for doing modifications. I purchase 3 sheets for modifications and or accidental damage to the interior
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07-24-2022, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Salem, Oregon
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Although it is about 5 or 6 hours away, if you can't find anyone more local to you, you might try looking for places in Elkhart, IN. Elkhart is supposedly the RV manufacturing capital of the world, and there are a lot of manufacturers there. I don't know of any, but it makes some sense that RV mod places would be there as well.
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07-24-2022, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Allison Park, Pennsylvania
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So appreciate all of the input & thoughtful suggestions.
I did a set of "plans" myself (really sketches) & did order materials from ETI to be delivered with the trailer so that the additional cabinets will match the existing ones.
I've closely read through & studied what Chris R, Jim Bennett, & several others have done. A little too much inspiration!
Though not an engineer, I also considered the weight distribution & think that my additions will be pretty well balanced.
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Lorraine from Pittsburgh
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07-24-2022, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DT6
Although it is about 5 or 6 hours away, if you can't find anyone more local to you, you might try looking for places in Elkhart, IN. Elkhart is supposedly the RV manufacturing capital of the world, and there are a lot of manufacturers there. I don't know of any, but it makes some sense that RV mod places would be there as well.
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Ah, good thought. I can't be the only one wanting to hire out mods. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Lorraine from Pittsburgh
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07-24-2022, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorraine Pittsburgh
I did a set of "plans" myself (really sketches) & did order materials from ETI to be delivered with the trailer so that the additional cabinets will match the existing ones.
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A good FREE CAD program for designing is Google SketchUp. I ended up designing & drawing up a FULL set of houseplans for my last house. Building inspector accepted them. It takes awhile to learn, as it is very VERY powerful. 3D, spin, go inside, colors, textures, etc.
My 3D of a tiny house (I did using it), I wanted to build.......before I found Escapes!
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07-24-2022, 09:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasing Trials
A good FREE CAD program for designing is Google SketchUp. I ended up designing & drawing up a FULL set of houseplans for my last house. Building inspector accepted them. It takes awhile to learn, as it is very VERY powerful. 3D, spin, go inside, colors, textures, etc.
My 3D of a tiny house (I did using it), I wanted to build.......before I found Escapes!
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Yes, it's an amazing program that just about anyone can use. I'm a bit in awe of how these programs have developed. I started on a CAD program called Intergraph on a mainframe long before AutoCAD came along. Even with the early iterations of AutoCAD you had to be pretty dedicated to master it.
On funny memory of the early years is when I first heard of a prediction that one day we'd be able to do a 3D walk through of a house. I was skeptical. Guess I was wrong.
Ron
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07-25-2022, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasing Trials
A good FREE CAD program for designing is Google SketchUp. I ended up designing & drawing up a FULL set of houseplans for my last house. Building inspector accepted them. It takes awhile to learn, as it is very VERY powerful. 3D, spin, go inside, colors, textures, etc.
My 3D of a tiny house (I did using it), I wanted to build.......before I found Escapes!
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Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Yes, it's an amazing program that just about anyone can use. I'm a bit in awe of how these programs have developed. I started on a CAD program called Intergraph on a mainframe long before AutoCAD came along. Even with the early iterations of AutoCAD you had to be pretty dedicated to master it.
On funny memory of the early years is when I first heard of a prediction that one day we'd be able to do a 3D walk through of a house. I was skeptical. Guess I was wrong.
Ron
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Wow, looks awesome. Not sure I've got the motivation or mental bandwidth right now to learn that, but will keep it in mind. Was aware that CAD programs had come a long way, but pretty amazing that something so advanced is now free!
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07-25-2022, 11:00 AM
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Lorraine,
I got your list and it is far too complicated as well beyond my simple tools. Sorry...
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