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04-04-2022, 08:42 PM
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Yes. When the cover of the unit is removed, the green printed circuit board on the upper right quadrant is the 12v circuitry, w/ fuses etc. The negative terminals are the silver square items at the top left corner.
The switch, if present, is along the left edge of the circuit board, about 1/3 way down from the top.
My friend's is a 2022, and has no switch, but was ordered as "lithium ready".
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04-04-2022, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazypill
Would that be on the left side of the 12v circuit board?
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Yes, that is where it would be if it is not the model with auto-detection.
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04-04-2022, 08:52 PM
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anything over around 13.7V or so with zero amps going into the batt, and a lithium battery is 99.9% fully charged 14.2-14.4V is the normal voltage limit for a LFP charger.
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04-04-2022, 08:59 PM
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Thank you guys, looks like I do have the switch, and it was in the ON (LI) position. So it isn't erroneously set to LA.
https://wfcoelectronics.com/wp-conte...l-FINAL-RP.pdf
Page 7 here probably isn't the same for the LIS model, but I don't see any mention of it in the manual. Does anyone have a reference for what the charge modes are with the LI setting?
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04-04-2022, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
anything over around 13.7V or so with zero amps going into the batt, and a lithium battery is 99.9% fully charged 14.2-14.4V is the normal voltage limit for a LFP charger.
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Looks like my two batteries in parallel are both now settled at 13.5v after being plugged into shore power all day. I would expect it to be more, right?
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04-04-2022, 09:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazypill
Thank you guys, looks like I do have the switch, and it was in the ON (LI) position. So it isn't erroneously set to LA.
https://wfcoelectronics.com/wp-conte...l-FINAL-RP.pdf
Page 7 here probably isn't the same for the LIS model, but I don't see any mention of it in the manual. Does anyone have a reference for what the charge modes are with the LI setting?
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LFP batteries don't really have charge modes, you dump max current into them until the voltage hits max voltage (14.2-14.4V), then hold that voltage until the current goes to zero. some chargers will fall back on a 'maintenance' state with a lower voltage but its not actually needed.
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04-05-2022, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazypill
Thank you guys, looks like I do have the switch, and it was in the ON (LI) position. So it isn't erroneously set to LA.
https://wfcoelectronics.com/wp-conte...l-FINAL-RP.pdf
Page 7 here probably isn't the same for the LIS model, but I don't see any mention of it in the manual. Does anyone have a reference for what the charge modes are with the LI setting?
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Your link is to the manual for the older WFCO-8955.
See page 8 here:
https://wfcoelectronics.com/wp-conte...-Manual-RP.pdf
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04-05-2022, 10:11 AM
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WFCO 8955 AutoDetect
ETI used the new WFCO AutoDetect (no switch) for our new 5.0. Doing our first shake-down camp this week at Ft Desoto. The 5.0 was at 70% SOC. Ran the 3-way refrig on DC during travel but with the panels, warm sunny FL day, and Orion charger, battery use was negligible and SOC didn't change.
Plugging into shore power at the campsite WFCO kicked in at 52-55 amps, according to the Thornwave. Didn't take very long and noted the 4-Li batteries where at 100%, 14.4V, although we were busy and we didn't time it, exactly.
Clearly the WFCO Autodetect has successfully recognized it's charging Li batteries, doing 2-stage charging. Turning off the batteries and panels for the remainder of this stay as we will be on shorepower and AC.
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04-05-2022, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
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Ah, thanks for that. Judging from what I see here, since my batteries are resting at 13.5-13.6 and the capacity is 460ah, I should just power cycle the WFCO by reconnecting shore power for another 1-4 hour absorption charge mode to get the battery bank to a higher SOC.
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04-06-2022, 09:41 PM
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I'm a novice at this stuff, but I'm wondering if your original high current flows were due to the different state of charge between the two batteries. I'm thinking that with them now both equally charged, you will be fine going forward. It's my understanding that paralleling two unequally charge LiFPO4s can be quite dangerous due to their ability to throw and accept such high amperages.
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