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06-30-2020, 02:16 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sparks, Nevada
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
Posts: 10
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Broken lower cabinets 17B
I am kind of disappointed in the lower cabinets of my 2017 Escape 17B. The enclosed ones, the one under the refrigerator and the one under the sink cabinet, have both separated from the cabinet frame and don't appear to have been reinforced underneath when they were built. It seems they were just hanging in the air. I have attached photos. We plan to take out the cabinet under the sink to see what's under there and to add supports before trying to put it back together. Because our trailer was built during the company's expansion, I always worry some new employee built ours and mistakes slipped by. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks.
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06-30-2020, 02:37 PM
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#2
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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This is the first I've seen any like these and hopefully the last. How are/were the face frames held to the carcass? Are those just short nails? No glue?
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Bob
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06-30-2020, 03:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
This is the first I've seen any like these and hopefully the last. How are/were the face frames held to the carcass? Are those just short nails? No glue?
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I concur what Bob is saying . You can use a rubber mallet to put back and shouldn’t mar the cabinets . Pat
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06-30-2020, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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What was carried down there? Canned goods or any appliances? It can be fixed but you do not want it to repeat, correct?
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06-30-2020, 03:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarGreen
I am kind of disappointed in the lower cabinets of my 2017 Escape 17B. The enclosed ones, the one under the refrigerator and the one under the sink cabinet, have both separated from the cabinet frame and don't appear to have been reinforced underneath when they were built. It seems they were just hanging in the air. I have attached photos. We plan to take out the cabinet under the sink to see what's under there and to add supports before trying to put it back together. Because our trailer was built during the company's expansion, I always worry some new employee built ours and mistakes slipped by. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks.
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No problems like that in ours. That sucks.
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06-30-2020, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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GRK makes trim / cabinet screws for use with wood and composite material
I have used the GRK screws , fluted dowel and wood glue & syringe to repair cabinets with modest success ( IE ; The repairs weren’t always invisible to the eye )
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06-30-2020, 04:40 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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If you aren't into fixing it, take it to a cabinet builder and get it fixed right.
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Bob
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06-30-2020, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
If you aren't into fixing it, take it to a cabinet builder and get it fixed right.
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Agree Bob . Although not hard for some of us , and that is ok , you want it fixed right .Pat
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06-30-2020, 09:03 PM
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#10
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sparks, Nevada
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
Posts: 10
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Yes, they are thin brad nails, no glue. Thanks for your reply.
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06-30-2020, 09:05 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sparks, Nevada
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B
Posts: 10
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We would keep some cans in there but usually didn't drive with them there as I like to keep the heavy in the car. No glue and short nails. By the way, I love your quote.
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06-30-2020, 09:05 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Have you contacted ETI? With your photographic evidence, they should consider extending your warranty.
Looks like the construction quality of my SIL's cheap sticky.
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06-30-2020, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarGreen
We would keep some cans in there but usually didn't drive with them there as I like to keep the heavy in the car. No glue and short nails. By the way, I love your quote.
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One would think that the kitchen cabinets especially base cabinets in an Escape trailer should be built to handle the normal conditions encountered in a travel trailer which includes carrying can goods , kitchen appliances and food in jars down the road
Brads and staples shot into fiberboard just doesn’t make the grade IMHO
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06-30-2020, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
Brads and staples shot into fiberboard just doesn’t make the grade IMHO
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Looks like crappy workmanship, but it's not fiberboard, and it's not fibreboard.
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06-30-2020, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Looks like crappy workmanship, but it's not fiberboard, and it's not fibreboard.
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OK , let’s agree to call it “ CRAPPY WORKMANSHIP “
I can think of some more descriptive adjectives but for now
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07-01-2020, 07:28 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarGreen
Yes, they are thin brad nails, no glue.
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I have cut into two upper cabinets (2010 19’ and 2019 21’) to install mini-split A/C units. I’ve encountered substantial construction with plenty of construction adhesive. Something like Liquid Nails. Definitely looks like they forgot that when building yours.
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07-01-2020, 07:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
I have cut into two upper cabinets (2010 19’ and 2019 21’) to install mini-split A/C units. I’ve encountered substantial construction with plenty of construction adhesive. Something like Liquid Nails. Definitely looks like they forgot that when building yours.
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I’ve found a few spots on my cabinets where they forgot the glue
They attempted to rectify the problem by adding a few extra staples ( think 20 staples in a 1” area.)
I pulled all the staples , injected glue and jury rigged some clamps where possible , trim screws when necessary
So far so good , but I just wish when they found the problem they took the time to fix it correctly and not just try to cover it up
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