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Old 06-30-2020, 02:16 PM   #1
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Broken lower cabinets 17B

I am kind of disappointed in the lower cabinets of my 2017 Escape 17B. The enclosed ones, the one under the refrigerator and the one under the sink cabinet, have both separated from the cabinet frame and don't appear to have been reinforced underneath when they were built. It seems they were just hanging in the air. I have attached photos. We plan to take out the cabinet under the sink to see what's under there and to add supports before trying to put it back together. Because our trailer was built during the company's expansion, I always worry some new employee built ours and mistakes slipped by. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:37 PM   #2
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This is the first I've seen any like these and hopefully the last. How are/were the face frames held to the carcass? Are those just short nails? No glue?
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:02 PM   #3
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You can put it back together with some glue and I'd recommend some screws like these Trimtite trim screws.
Trim head screw, Trimhead Screw, wood composite decking screw.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:15 PM   #4
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This is the first I've seen any like these and hopefully the last. How are/were the face frames held to the carcass? Are those just short nails? No glue?
I concur what Bob is saying . You can use a rubber mallet to put back and shouldn’t mar the cabinets . Pat
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What was carried down there? Canned goods or any appliances? It can be fixed but you do not want it to repeat, correct?
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:25 PM   #6
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I am kind of disappointed in the lower cabinets of my 2017 Escape 17B. The enclosed ones, the one under the refrigerator and the one under the sink cabinet, have both separated from the cabinet frame and don't appear to have been reinforced underneath when they were built. It seems they were just hanging in the air. I have attached photos. We plan to take out the cabinet under the sink to see what's under there and to add supports before trying to put it back together. Because our trailer was built during the company's expansion, I always worry some new employee built ours and mistakes slipped by. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks.
No problems like that in ours. That sucks.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:15 PM   #7
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GRK makes trim / cabinet screws for use with wood and composite material
I have used the GRK screws , fluted dowel and wood glue & syringe to repair cabinets with modest success ( IE ; The repairs weren’t always invisible to the eye )
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:40 PM   #8
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If you aren't into fixing it, take it to a cabinet builder and get it fixed right.
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If you aren't into fixing it, take it to a cabinet builder and get it fixed right.
Agree Bob . Although not hard for some of us , and that is ok , you want it fixed right .Pat
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:03 PM   #10
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Yes, they are thin brad nails, no glue. Thanks for your reply.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:05 PM   #11
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We would keep some cans in there but usually didn't drive with them there as I like to keep the heavy in the car. No glue and short nails. By the way, I love your quote.
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Have you contacted ETI? With your photographic evidence, they should consider extending your warranty.
Looks like the construction quality of my SIL's cheap sticky.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:34 PM   #13
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We would keep some cans in there but usually didn't drive with them there as I like to keep the heavy in the car. No glue and short nails. By the way, I love your quote.
One would think that the kitchen cabinets especially base cabinets in an Escape trailer should be built to handle the normal conditions encountered in a travel trailer which includes carrying can goods , kitchen appliances and food in jars down the road
Brads and staples shot into fiberboard just doesn’t make the grade IMHO
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:09 PM   #14
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Brads and staples shot into fiberboard just doesn’t make the grade IMHO

Looks like crappy workmanship, but it's not fiberboard, and it's not fibreboard.
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Looks like crappy workmanship, but it's not fiberboard, and it's not fibreboard.
OK , let’s agree to call it “ CRAPPY WORKMANSHIP “
I can think of some more descriptive adjectives but for now
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Yes, they are thin brad nails, no glue.
I have cut into two upper cabinets (2010 19’ and 2019 21’) to install mini-split A/C units. I’ve encountered substantial construction with plenty of construction adhesive. Something like Liquid Nails. Definitely looks like they forgot that when building yours.
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Old 07-01-2020, 07:50 AM   #17
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I have cut into two upper cabinets (2010 19’ and 2019 21’) to install mini-split A/C units. I’ve encountered substantial construction with plenty of construction adhesive. Something like Liquid Nails. Definitely looks like they forgot that when building yours.
I’ve found a few spots on my cabinets where they forgot the glue
They attempted to rectify the problem by adding a few extra staples ( think 20 staples in a 1” area.)
I pulled all the staples , injected glue and jury rigged some clamps where possible , trim screws when necessary

So far so good , but I just wish when they found the problem they took the time to fix it correctly and not just try to cover it up
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