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02-08-2020, 01:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, Texas
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
While all other windows have been working great, my bath window did delaminate last year, and Reace gave me the replacement which is only single glazed but will work good. These bath windows have been a problem for them.
Richard, would Escape supply the replacement?
Oh yeah, my entry door window became an issue when a thief smashed it in.
It was really nice that each window took no more than 10 minutes to replace. Quick and easy.
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Yes, but not for free. We ordered a new window which will be installed by ETI the day before we arrive at Osoyoos. I'm also getting an electric jack installed.
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02-29-2020, 11:39 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia
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Has anyone installed a replacement window yet?
So I received a single pane replacement window for the bathroom in the fall, and will have to get busy installing it soon.
Has anyone installed a new one themselves yet?
I have the inner and outer parts, and a handful of sheetmetal screws, but no pre-drilled holes to screw them together.
I wonder how they do these at ETI?
I can assume that I will be drilling some small pilot holes and simply screwing them together, but thought I'd touch base with the collective to see if anyone has any experience... great ideas, things to avoid...
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03-01-2020, 08:28 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brookfielder
So I received a single pane replacement window for the bathroom in the fall, and will have to get busy installing it soon.
Has anyone installed a new one themselves yet?
I have the inner and outer parts, and a handful of sheetmetal screws, but no pre-drilled holes to screw them together.
I wonder how they do these at ETI?
I can assume that I will be drilling some small pilot holes and simply screwing them together, but thought I'd touch base with the collective to see if anyone has any experience... great ideas, things to avoid...
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There should be holes for the screws in the inside trim ring and none in the window - the screws are self tapping and will make their own holes in the window.
Install the screws like you would tighten a tire wheel - one on the top, one on the bottom, one on the left side, one on the right side, etc. until all the holes have screws. Don't tighten the screws down until all the screws are installed to prevent warping the trim.
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03-01-2020, 08:33 AM
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#44
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Location: Baytown, Texas
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Almost forgot, make sure to look for any spots like the pic below and fill the irregularity with some sealant. That step area is what will cause it to leak later as the foam strip has difficulty sealing it.
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03-01-2020, 08:39 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,528
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brookfielder
So I received a single pane replacement window for the bathroom in the fall, and will have to get busy installing it soon.
Has anyone installed a new one themselves yet?
I have the inner and outer parts, and a handful of sheetmetal screws, but no pre-drilled holes to screw them together.
I wonder how they do these at ETI?
I can assume that I will be drilling some small pilot holes and simply screwing them together, but thought I'd touch base with the collective to see if anyone has any experience... great ideas, things to avoid...
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I had to do the same. It is really easy. You remove the screws on the inner flange that effectively pulls the window tight to the fibreglass. Then carefully pry the window out, which is not too hard as their is no caulk or sealant holding it, it uses a foam gasket as a seal. Clean up the fibreglass while the window is out, then have someone hold the window from the outside while you screw the new flange on the inside. This took about 10 minutes to do.
I had to do the door window too, as thieves had broken it to get in. It was just as easy to do.
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03-01-2020, 09:27 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia
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Thanks folks. You confirmed what I had in mind, and that hint about sealing the joint in the frame of the window is the kind of helpful insight I was hoping for.
I haven’t looked at the window since the fall, when I boxed it back up and set it inside the trailer before winterizing and covering.
The old window looked to me like it wouldn’t allow any moisture in, despite the popped outside pane, and with the cover keeping it from exposure to rain/wind/snow I figured it should be okay to wait for drier weather before breaking the outer seal.
First trip is Easter....must do soon!
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07-31-2020, 09:32 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Upstate, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardr
The closing mechanism came loose from my Hehr double pain bathroom window. This has been an ongoing problem, where double-sided VHB tape does not seem to hold it.
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The closing mechanism on our 2017 double pane bathroom window has also separated. ETI gave us Lippert contact info and part numbers.
We haven't got a response back from Lippert, but expect a replacement will be pricey.
Has anyone had any success with simply reattaching the mechanism to the window?
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07-31-2020, 03:33 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbny
The closing mechanism on our 2017 double pane bathroom window has also separated. ETI gave us Lippert contact info and part numbers.
We haven't got a response back from Lippert, but expect a replacement will be pricey.
Has anyone had any success with simply reattaching the mechanism to the window?
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I finally used epoxy and glued the window permanently shut. I had an appointment with ETI to get the window replaced with a single pane window for $317 Canadian, parts and labor. But I had to cancel when travel to Canada was restricted.
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08-01-2020, 07:54 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardr
I finally used epoxy and glued the window permanently shut. I had an appointment with ETI to get the window replaced with a single pane window for $317 Canadian, parts and labor. But I had to cancel when travel to Canada was restricted.
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Reace gave me a bathroom window when mine delaminated. It took about 10 minutes to exchange. Maybe you could get it shipped.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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08-01-2020, 10:46 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Reace gave me a bathroom window when mine delaminated. It took about 10 minutes to exchange. Maybe you could get it shipped.
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I asked about shipping. It was $50 Canadian. We find we really don't miss the window not opening. With the fan on we get plenty of ventilation under the door, where we had the gap placed.
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08-01-2020, 10:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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Although our Escape does not have this style of window. I remember that the delamination started to occur on some windows shortly after delivery a couple ? Few? Years ago. Wasn’t there a discussion that the Hehr factory that produced the defective windows was in California and the Hehr factory that produced other frameless windows was in Illinois? Don’t remember much more than that but I think there was a “common thread” to that effect. I’m trying to keep a mental gymnastics memory routine going to convince myself I’m not getting old.
Good luck in your repair. A foggy bathroom window wouldn’t be the end of the world if replacement costs seem exorbitant. Other windows, not so good.
Iowa Dave
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08-09-2020, 10:22 AM
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#52
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Upstate, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Good luck in your repair. A foggy bathroom window wouldn’t be the end of the world if replacement costs seem exorbitant. Other windows, not so good.
Iowa Dave
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Our problem isn't a foggy window. The opening mechanism separated from the window pane. I suspect it is because the bathroom glass isn't smooth.
I sent an email to Lippert with the part numbers that ETI gave me and haven't had a response in over week.
It is too bad that we are traveling thousands of miles with white tape on the outside holding the window in. Kind of striking on an otherwise sparkling trailer and not the best advertising I would think.
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08-09-2020, 11:01 AM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Posts: 1,390
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Can you show us a picture?
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08-09-2020, 11:17 AM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Although our Escape does not have this style of window. I remember that the delamination started to occur on some windows shortly after delivery a couple ? Few? Years ago. Wasn’t there a discussion that the Hehr factory that produced the defective windows was in California and the Hehr factory that produced other frameless windows was in Illinois? Don’t remember much more than that but I think there was a “common thread” to that effect. I’m trying to keep a mental gymnastics memory routine going to convince myself I’m not getting old.
Good luck in your repair. A foggy bathroom window wouldn’t be the end of the world if replacement costs seem exorbitant. Other windows, not so good.
Iowa Dave
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You are not getting old (well, at least the mind). Mt 2017 bathroom window "delaminated", ie the two panes of glass separated. I pulled the window and used epoxy to glue the two pieces back together. If it fogs, I don't care since it is the bathroom window.
The epoxy has held well so far, so I suspect it could be used to reattach the opening mechanism back to the glass. I used white JB Water Weld.
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08-17-2020, 04:22 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Upstate, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
Can you show us a picture?
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Here is a photo.
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08-17-2020, 07:28 AM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
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J B Priducts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
You are not getting old (well, at least the mind). Mt 2017 bathroom window "delaminated", ie the two panes of glass separated. I pulled the window and used epoxy to glue the two pieces back together. If it fogs, I don't care since it is the bathroom window.
The epoxy has held well so far, so I suspect it could be used to reattach the opening mechanism back to the glass. I used white JB Water Weld.
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Hi Jon
I’ve had good luck with the JB line of products. I have found its best if you shop at a place where they have a complete line of product . Some of the uses “will probably do” and others read “ just what I am looking for” on the “suitable surfaces” side of things. Hope you’re doing as well as can be expected and hope to see you along the line somewhere in the future.
Iowa Dave
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08-17-2020, 07:32 AM
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#57
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Senior Member
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Location: DFW, Texas
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Just throwing this out there but one could try the 3M double sided trim tape. Clean both surfaces completely thou so it bonds properly.
David
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08-17-2020, 12:28 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2017 5.0 TA
Posts: 146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbny
The closing mechanism on our 2017 double pane bathroom window has also separated. ETI gave us Lippert contact info and part numbers.
We haven't got a response back from Lippert, but expect a replacement will be pricey.
Has anyone had any success with simply reattaching the mechanism to the window?
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I recently had exactly this same problem shortly before leaving on a trip (of course). I just happened to have some 3M double sided trim tape (as suggested by @Oldtimer). I think any high quality double sided outdoor thick/foam tape (VHB tape) should work. I removed the lower window, which is easy to do when it is detached from the closing mechanism, and scraped off the black adhesive and cleaned that area with a solvent. I also removed the sliding track part of the mechanism on the end of the arms and cleaned it. The track has a channel where the glue was attached and I had to build the tape up to 3 layers so final layer of tape was above the side of the channel. I then repositioned the track and rehung the lower window, lined up everything, and pushed them together. I used some clamps and wood to carefully hold them in tight contact for 24 hours. I would recommend doing this in warm/hot weather when the tape is most flexible and sticky.
So far my repair has held together (only 1.5 months), but I don't trust it. The window could fall out if this connection came apart on the road. I put black duct tape (Gorilla brand) over the joint between the two window halves. Also, I don't close the window all the way when traveling since that puts the most tension on the connection to the glass. A little rain in the bathroom window shouldn't be a big problem. Perhaps I'll trust it more after it has more time on it and I will take off the duct tape.
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11-07-2020, 05:04 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I too had the double stick foam tape release on my bathrrom and now my kitchen window. I was successful with removing cleaning and reinstalling the bathroom window using silicone adhesive on the rail.
my problem is the other window now removed just will not go back on the hinge! any tricks or advice? I really do not want to break it trying to reinstall it.
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