|
|
02-01-2020, 08:31 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Johnson City, Texas
Trailer: 2019 19 ft.
Posts: 484
|
Front inner tire wear
Discovered uneven tire wear on front axle. Inside both street and curb front tires worn smooth - and beyond on curb front. Trailer mileage: 14262 miles, 5 trips since May 23, 2019 pickup.
Curb Front
Curb Rear
Street Front
Street rear
Based on Escapees SmartWeigh, trailer is balanced front to back and side to side, with about 100 lbs more weight on rear trailer tires than front when hitched.
Check tire pressure before each long towing leg - 50 psi. Check torque on all lugs when starting and when returning per trip. Have not rotated or balanced. Interstate towing speed 70-73 mph - which may be too high for these tires which are speed rated at 78 mph.
Thoughts?
Replacing tires on Monday with four 205/75R15 Goodyear Endurance - $665 with replacement certificates.
73/gus
__________________
Mary & Gus
K5MCL & KR4K
2019 E19' (F1), Mercedes Sprinter 2500 or GLS580
|
|
|
02-01-2020, 09:10 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Humboldt County, California
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 173
|
Looks like your front axle is slightly bent (downward in the middle of the axle) and the front tires are also showing signs of being under inflated.
The bent axle could be a result of an encounter with a pot hole or a curb that you might not have even noticed at the time. I don't know if these torsion axles can be straightened or not. Perhaps someone more familiar with them can comment on that. But do make sure to regularly check the tire pressures. There appears to be more wear on both the inner and outer edges than the centers of the two front tires, which is a classic indication of under inflation.
If it were my trailer, I wouldn't tow it very far until I'd gotten that front axle checked out and repaired so as to avoid damaging the new tires.
__________________
Fog Lark
|
|
|
02-01-2020, 09:31 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: College Station, Texas
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 "LollyPop" June 12, 2017, sold Coleman pop up
Posts: 256
|
You may have a defective front axle. I had a defective rear axle. My curb rear tire wore excessively on the outside edge. I had the bearings and hubs checked out at my tire shop and no one thought that was it as that all looked fine. Reace said he thought it was a defective axle. I put the unused spare in that spot and it did exactly the same thing. So I contacted Dexter. They denied responsibility but "as a goodwill gesture offered to send a new axle at no charge". They sent it to the tire shop. I paid the labor to swap them out and all has been well since. By the way, Reace told me to keep him in the loop and let him know how things worked out. When I did so he asked how much the labor cost, and when I told him he mailed me a check to cover the cost. I did not ask for or expect that, but it is what he did.
|
|
|
02-01-2020, 11:09 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19'
Posts: 264
|
I had excessive wear on the inside of one my tires after a brake/bearing service. I think if the wheel is not properly seated after a bearing servicing this can happen. Rotated the worn tire with the spare at the next service, and all is good now.
Try searching the forum for tire wear and bearings, I figured out the cause from browsing the forum.
__________________
Kirk & Shelley
2014 19'
Surrey, Beautiful BC, Canada
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 01:39 AM
|
#5
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 45
|
We had some uneaven tire wear on our rear axle, there was a loose axle bearing. Check your axle bearings are torqued correctly. Good luck.
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 06:28 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
|
Also get a new tire gauge, I always carry 2 for comparison and compare to the air pump pressure to see if all 3 agree.
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 06:55 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: College Station, Texas
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 "LollyPop" June 12, 2017, sold Coleman pop up
Posts: 256
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkB
I had excessive wear on the inside of one my tires after a brake/bearing service. I think if the wheel is not properly seated after a bearing servicing this can happen. Rotated the worn tire with the spare at the next service, and all is good now.
Try searching the forum for tire wear and bearings, I figured out the cause from browsing the forum.
|
This is why in my case I first had the bearings checked out and the wheels reseated with the unused spare then placed at that location. When that made no difference (the unused spare started wearing excessively in the same manner) we realized it must be the axle. Axles can have a manufacturing defect, be damaged in shipping to ETI, or damaged after the trailer is manufactured. Replacing the axle solved the problem.
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 07:30 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Johnson City, Texas
Trailer: 2019 19 ft.
Posts: 484
|
Will be watching
Quote:
Originally Posted by casejh
This is why in my case I first had the bearings checked out and the wheels reseated with the unused spare then placed at that location. When that made no difference (the unused spare started wearing excessively in the same manner) we realized it must be the axle.
|
Will carefully watch these new tires, and will make sure Discount Tire seats the wheels properly. Am a bit doubtful this is a wheel seating issue, as it would be common on both sides.
Will be contacting Dexter and ETI this week.
73/gus
__________________
Mary & Gus
K5MCL & KR4K
2019 E19' (F1), Mercedes Sprinter 2500 or GLS580
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 07:44 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Johnson City, Texas
Trailer: 2019 19 ft.
Posts: 484
|
50 PSI seems about right for load and axles
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Also get a new tire gauge, I always carry 2 for comparison and compare to the air pump pressure to see if all 3 agree.
|
Have two, one round-face and other stick. Both show the same ±1-2 lbs. Will get a third one today.
Found this for Goodyear Endurance:
Tire Size ST205/75R15
Max Speed 87
Rating Inflation Pressure - PSI/lbs
25/1220 30/1360 35/1480 40/1610 45/1720 50/1820 55/1940 60/2040 65/2150 (D)
Goodyear Endurance Load Inflation Table
Per spec sheet, Endurance load index is 107 = 2149 lbs, load range is D = 8 ply, and
speed rating is N = 87 mph. Seems to be the best ST tire rating available.
73/gus
__________________
Mary & Gus
K5MCL & KR4K
2019 E19' (F1), Mercedes Sprinter 2500 or GLS580
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 08:40 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 (sold) Escape 21 2014
Posts: 1,879
|
Put on 4 Endurance last summer at Discount Tire, a nationwide chain. ST205/75 R15. The tires were 475 US, after installation and all the other fees it came to $614. Done in North Carolina.
Before they installed them I checked the dates on the tires, they differed a bit but all were stamped 2019. That was close enough.
I also joined the installer in the bay to be sure that he jacked the trailer up using the frame and not the axle.
Very pleased with the results.
__________________
Paul and Janet Braun
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 now 2012 Toyota Sequoia V8
Escape 19' 2010 now 2014 Escape 21'
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 09:07 AM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Johnson City, Texas
Trailer: 2019 19 ft.
Posts: 484
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
I also joined the installer in the bay to be sure that he jacked the trailer up using the frame and not the axle.
|
Thanks for the reminder - MUST tell them and watch them on this one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
Put on 4 Endurance last summer at Discount Tire, a nationwide chain. ST205/75 R15. The tires were 475 US, after installation and all the other fees it came to $614. Done in North Carolina.
|
Discount Tire is where I am getting these. Price varies a bit by location with the state imposed fees. Getting these in California.
73/gus
__________________
Mary & Gus
K5MCL & KR4K
2019 E19' (F1), Mercedes Sprinter 2500 or GLS580
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 09:57 AM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17A double dinette
Posts: 1,518
|
Discount tires/American Tires (depending on area of the country) has always given me great service. They will fix a tire free. Once they even fixed a costco tire that had a nail in it, no charge.
__________________
--Time and trouble will tame an advanced young woman, but an advanced older woman is uncontrollable by any earthly force. --Dorothy Sayers
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 04:06 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Fenton, Michigan
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21, 2014 Northern Lite slide in, 2014 2500 Duramax
Posts: 185
|
I had a similar issue, outside wear on left rear, inside wear on right rear. Dexter sent an axle to an RV repair I specified, paid for 2 hours labor to change the axle. They also said, no admission, but as a customer satisfaction replacement. I paid for new tires and balance. Have a picture of the axle serial tag, a picture of the drop arm from the axle to the spindle, showing the spindle is lower than axle center, and a picture of the axle between the wheels showing the arc of the axle. Don't delay, call Dexter asap
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 05:03 PM
|
#14
|
Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Laramie, Wyoming
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 37
|
At 12,000 miles on our 2014 Escape 19 we had uneven tire wear on both front driver side and rear passenger side tires. Dexter replaced both axles, offered to replace two tires, and paid the labor charges. It all took a while but this was the end result. No yelling or upset, just steady communication.
|
|
|
02-02-2020, 11:35 PM
|
#15
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TZBrown
Have a picture of the axle serial tag, a picture of the drop arm from the axle to the spindle, showing the spindle is lower than axle center, and a picture of the axle between the wheels showing the arc of the axle.
|
I'm not sure why the picture of the arm... to show that the wear is not due to the rubber being worn out? If so, simply having the hub below the tube centre isn't meaningful- they would be comparing arm angle to stock (which is specified on the axle tag and which they can look up in their records by serial number), or checking the torque bar position as I described earlier.
|
|
|
02-03-2020, 06:35 AM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Signal Mountain (Chattanooga), Tennessee
Trailer: Escape 21 November 2014; 2022 GMC 1500 3.0L
Posts: 681
|
All 4 brakes?
One other thing to check when at the tire shop would be whether all four brakes are working. I had one wire come apart at the crimp joint, so had three brakes.
If you had no brakes on the rear axle, that could cause the wear difference.
Someone sits in the tow vehicle and applies the brakes or the brake controller, while another tries to spin the tires, one at a time.
|
|
|
02-03-2020, 01:10 PM
|
#17
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill and Earline
Someone sits in the tow vehicle and applies the brakes or the brake controller, while another tries to spin the tires, one at a time.
|
You can also unplug the trailer from the car, pull the breakaway switch plug, check each wheel, then put the breakaway switch plug back in. Only one person required for this method.
|
|
|
02-03-2020, 01:57 PM
|
#18
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Johnson City, Texas
Trailer: 2019 19 ft.
Posts: 484
|
Goodyear Endurance installed
Quote:
Originally Posted by mvassallo
Dexter replaced both axles, offered to replace two tires, and paid the labor charges. It all took a while but this was the end result. No yelling or upset, just steady communication.
|
New tires installed. While wheels off, took pictures and videos of each hub, but there were no noticeable differences, sounds, or feel.
Will do the brake check method by driving up on leveling blocks to get one tire off ground at a time.
Dustin Dionne at ETI responded that they have no idea as to "why", and he recommended I send all the photos and info to Dexter. Have done so this morning.
Will carefully watch new tires for any excess tread wear.
73/gus
__________________
Mary & Gus
K5MCL & KR4K
2019 E19' (F1), Mercedes Sprinter 2500 or GLS580
|
|
|
07-03-2020, 09:50 PM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Yarnell, Arizona
Trailer: 2024 Bigfoot 21 Rear Bed
Posts: 545
|
We appear to be joining this club. Our rear axle curbside tire hardly has any tread left on the inside. The tire on the street side rear axle is also worn on the inside, although not as much. We have 20-25K miles on these tires, check pressure daily when driving, set at 50#. Even have 3 gauges and they all agree. The tires on the front axle have worn evenly. We just sent pictures to Dustin. We picked up our trailer brand new Oct 1, 2018. Should be under someone's warranty. Should we just ignore Escape and go directly to Dexter?
We have the underside insulation. Is it possible to read the Dexter serial number or does foam need to be removed? I am being lazy and not crawling under right now...
__________________
Myrl and Gary
|
|
|
07-04-2020, 06:15 AM
|
#20
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
|
My axles have no foam on them. Time to get up out of the chair and climb under.
__________________
Happy Motoring
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|