Full hookup question

[7Gentex]

Originally Posted by TTMartin

Again, it is a sewage storage tank, it doesn't need to be clean. I have never done anything other than dump my tank. Never had an issue with accumulated solids. No multiple flushings needed.

All you do is back up the line at the dump station while other people wait for you to do something meaningless. But, hey the company that makes them made a couple of bucks.

The design of the E19 tank / plumbing really helps to almost completely empty the black tank.


21C - not so much.............

[LRL]

Concur. Both closed.

[davidmurphy02]

Originally Posted by Vermilye

I do sometimes find the need to add a deodorizer to my grey tank - I use a screen to keep food particles out of the drain, but a week after washing up after making a blueberry pie it can start to stink far worse than the black tank.

The benefits of making blueberry pie far outweigh any inconvenience from grey tank odors

[cpaharley2008]

I think the issue with those flushers is using a water hose for sewer issues. Not sure I want to mix my hoses like that....

[pgorman]

We rinse our black tank after each trip using this combo. It's quick, easy, and cleans remarkably well.

Being a junior member I can't post links...

Camco - 21013 RV Straight Swivel Stik with Shutoff Valve
Camco - 40075 Rhino Toilet Flush Valve Prop

[gbaglo]

I do use a wand from time to time, poked through a large plastic bottle to prevent a face wash. A wipes bottle holds the toilet trap open. I don't seem to accomplish much.

[7Gentex]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

I think the issue with those flushers is using a water hose for sewer issues. Not sure I want to mix my hoses like that....

Agreed

Most use a dedicated hose for such, Camco markets a bright orange one for that use.

A good back flow preventer is a must as well for that hose connection.

My old trailer had a straight shot (and a single black/gray tank) from the valve to the bottom side of the tank. The clear valve fitting adapter with a hose powered flush jet worked pretty good though it needed about 3 fills / flushes.

I also kept a spray bottle of a mild bleach solution in my black tank supplies box.

[Eggscape]

Personally I don’t like leaving the city water hose turned on as I don’t trust the plumbing that Escape did. We fill the tank and use the pump…turning it off if we go for a walk. I don’t want to return to our trailer and find that it is now a bathtub. I know that most people do keep the city water energized without any problems…but everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by Eggscape

Personally I don’t like leaving the city water hose turned on as I don’t trust the plumbing that Escape did. We fill the tank and use the pump…turning it off if we go for a walk. I don’t want to return to our trailer and find that it is now a bathtub. I know that most people do keep the city water energized without any problems…but everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.

I try to remember to do the same if both of us will be gone, but normally one stays with the dogs......

[YakRV]

Thank you to everyone who responded to my question. All provided food for thought. This forum is always so helpful. It’s much appreciated.

[rubicon327]

Another reason to keep the valves closed with full hookups until ready to flush is sewer gases. The toilet and plumbing in an Escape is not trapped like a house. Depending on the sanitary piping arrangement in the campground gases can come up into your tanks. This combined with the negative pressure created from a bath fan and/or MaxxFan is not pleasant. This happened to me in a Hershey PA campground. Granted we were at the top of a very steep hill so that may have contributed to the issue.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

I think the issue with those flushers is using a water hose for sewer issues. Not sure I want to mix my hoses like that....

So don't mix them. I carry a utility hose for use with the flusher in my motorhome, and that hose is never used for potable water; that's a common solution.

[gbaglo]

I have a white potable water hose and an old green garden hose for utilities. I screw the male end into the female end to keep critters and debris out of the hose.

[Ron in BC]

Originally Posted by davidmurphy02

The benefits of making blueberry pie far outweigh any inconvenience from grey tank odors

I can't believe that Jon's blueberry pie, with it's Josuha tree pastry, had any bad effects.

In fact it was so good and went so fast that I lobbied to be a judge at the next Q'site rally. Best job perk that I ever had.

Hope I get to sample another pie Jon. Border's open, so maybe next year.

Ron

[Vermilye]

Originally Posted by Ron in BC

I can't believe that Jon's blueberry pie, with it's Josuha tree pastry, had any bad effects.

In fact it was so good and went so fast that I lobbied to be a judge at the next Q'site rally. Best job perk that I ever had.

Hope I get to sample another pie Jon. Border's open, so maybe next year.

Ron

I also hope you get a chance. The next one will be at the unorganized gathering at Townsend, TN in April, and the Spring Fling in New Hampshire in May, but I probably be making one at the Algonac rally in MI in September as well as the Niagara Wine Escape in Niagara Falls, Ontario the week after. You don'e even need to cross the border for the Niagara Falls rally, just most of Canada!

[gklott]

Originally Posted by Rockhead

Keep both closed. When it’s time to empty the black tank, you use the grey water to rinse the black tank residue out of the sewer hose

Yes, this is the way.

73/gus

[fudge_brownie]

Before using the black tank I add two gallons of water. Especially necessary having a 21 with the long sewer pipe. The water fills that pipe and accumulates in the bottom of the black tank. Without the water the solid waste collects directly below toilet bowel and will not flow out during the dump process. After struggling to remove the poop pile the effort to add the water is minuscule.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

I have a white potable water hose and an old green garden hose for utilities. I screw the male end into the female end to keep critters and debris out of the hose.

Exactly

[7Gentex]

Originally Posted by fudge_brownie

Before using the black tank I add two gallons of water. Especially necessary having a 21 with the long sewer pipe. The water fills that pipe and accumulates in the bottom of the black tank. Without the water the solid waste collects directly below toilet bowel and will not flow out during the dump process. After struggling to remove the poop pile the effort to add the water is minuscule.

So, who really built the pyramids?

[7Gentex]

Originally Posted by rubicon327

Another reason to keep the valves closed with full hookups until ready to flush is sewer gases. The toilet and plumbing in an Escape is not trapped like a house. Depending on the sanitary piping arrangement in the campground gases can come up into your tanks. This combined with the negative pressure created from a bath fan and/or MaxxFan is not pleasant. This happened to me in a Hershey PA campground. Granted we were at the top of a very steep hill so that may have contributed to the issue.

Important point ...........required (valves shut unless draining tanks) by some campgrounds even.