Generators

[Jim Bennett]

Donna, I think that A/C unit was a model in their production, and the one they use now will run off the 2000W unit without the capacitive start. I have been wrong that one time before though. Maybe someone could yeah or nay that.

[padlin]

Those 3000is's sure are quiet though, makes the 2000is sound loud. 131 lbs vs 45 lbs, dry.

[Iowa Dave]

Jim
Yup, you and I are not getting any younger. I can still handle 80 lbs ok but I feel it the next day. I failed to note that for about the same initial investment a person could buy two 2000s but then the space they take up increases as does the fuel consumption. I know them little 2000s are a nice unit, we had a couple when I was in the parks dept for away from power jobs. The maintenance guys either used inverters off the truck or the Miller Bobcat welders but once in a while we needed 110'where we could not drive or reach.
Dave
Dave

[Donna D.]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

Donna, I think that A/C unit was a model in their production, and the one they use now will run off the 2000W unit without the capacitive start. I have been wrong that one time before though. Maybe someone could yeah or nay that.

I'd love to hear that yeah or nay too Jim for a new build. Has the A/C unit changed since Reace posted his results?

There's a whole lot of discussion going on the CasitaForum and the loud Mach A/C units...

But running on the Honda 2000...

[Ron in BC]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

have been wrong that one time before though. Maybe someone could yeah or nay that.

Yeah

Ron

[AK snowbiker]

We did not get the Air Conditioner on our build due to living up North. We plan on going outside this summer to visit my wife's family in Ontario and my family in the midwest. It's going to be a good test of the awning windows in the loft and Max air vent.

[Mountain Mike]

Yamaha makes great generators. We have the 2400 watt for running our AC. Not as heavy as the 3000 watt Honda. When we use the generator I turn off the surge protector. Works just fine.

[cpaharley2008]

Like Jim, I too have heard that the Escape 11,500 will operate off the 2000 watt generator and the soft start is standard in the 11,500.Before ETI offered the 9200 Coleman which did run and when they stopped offering that model Reace tested the 11,500 with success.

[Tonny LR]

RE: Honda EU2000i.
Please advise which Honda EU2000W generator to buy to run A/C or charge batteries. There is an invertor and an invertor companion. Invertor companion has a 30Amp outlet vs regulator Honda EU2000i does not have a 30 amp and needs an adaptor to hook up to a trailer. I need help from Forum members who have knowledge on invertors on which model to select. Thanks.

Tonny LR

[davescape]

Originally Posted by Tonny LR

RE: Honda EU2000i.
Please advise which Honda EU2000W generator to buy to run A/C or charge batteries. There is an invertor and an invertor companion. Invertor companion has a 30Amp outlet vs regulator Honda EU2000i does not have a 30 amp and needs an adaptor to hook up to a trailer. I need help from Forum members who have knowledge on invertors on which model to select. Thanks.

Tonny LR

The Honda 2000 Companion puts out the same 15 amps of power that the Honda 2000 puts out. What's different is that if you purchase both the Honda 2000 AND the Honda 2000 Companion and connect them together, you can get 30 amps through the 30 amp plug on the Companion. If you only have the one generator, either one, you will get 15 amps. BTW 15 amps is an approximation and depends on many factors.

The Honda 2000 will run the Air Cond on my 2014 - 19'. I haven't tried it in real life at a high elevation but it will run on my driveway at 200' above sea level. The higher you are, the less it will perform. The generator also needs to be out of eco mode. I've tried two Honda generators: first my neighbours, and then I purchased one.

The Yamaha 2000 generator freaked out my EMS (Electrical Management System - over and under voltage protection). It did this even when the EMS was disabled. When the EMS is disabled it still protects against surges. For some reason it sensed surging power from the Yamaha generator and shut out the circuit. The EMS manufacturer rep (Progressive Industries) indicated that they have had trouble with the Yamaha in the past and urged me to try a Honda. Progressive also notes that their device is not intended to operate on generator power. It may not be Yamaha's fault, but chances are that if you've got an EMS, the two won't play well together. I think some other people on the forum have had success with the Yamaha 2000 but they may not have had the EMS or maybe something has changed in either product. A larger Yamaha may work just fine.

With 2000 watts you'll be able to charge batteries OR run the Air Cond, but not both at the same time. Don't see why you would need both at the same time anyway unless you don't have solar. If its hot enough to use the AC, there's probably enough sunlight sometime during the day to juice the batteries with solar.

[Tonny LR]

Hello davescape,
Thank you for the detailed explaination of connecting two 15 amp generators to generate 30 amp power. I don't intent to buy two generators at this time since one generator will power the Escape Air Cond. or charge the two 6 volts batteries. We have the same model year of trailer and I am comfortable with your feedbacks and Reace's prior post that Honda EU2000i will run the trailer A/C. May I ask which model of generator do you have? My issue now is which one to buy. Am I correct to assume that Honda EU2000i companion is the right one to buy because I can use the detachable power cord to hook up to the generator's 30 amp outlet from the trailer shore power outlet . This is the same as I did in campsite with power but only getting 15amp. Please give your suggestions.

Tonny LR

[Tonny LR]

Hello davescape,
Do you have to buy a groung-neutral bond plug for the generator to work?

Tonny LR

[padlin]

I have the normal 2000i, has 2 15 amp plugs, no 30A. I just use one of the 30A to 15A adapters on the cord. You're only getting 15 out anyway unless you buy a 2nd generator. Either generator will do the job. If you decide you want 30A down the road one of the 2 must be a companion.

[Tonny LR]

Bob,
Thanks for the info. That is exactly what I was researching for.

Tonny LR

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by padlin

I have the normal 2000i, has 2 15 amp plugs, no 30A. I just use one of the 30A to 15A adapters on the cord. You're only getting 15 out anyway unless you buy a 2nd generator. Either generator will do the job. If you decide you want 30A down the road one of the 2 must be a companion.

Yes, but there is another alternative: two normal EU2000i generators and a parallel connection kit. You don't need either to be a Companion.

As explained by Honda:

Parallel cords allow the user to obtain the full power of both units, limited by the capacity of an individual outlet. Parallel cords are available for the EU1000i, EU2000i, EU3000 Handi, and EU3000i.
If you have 2 regular EU2000i, 2 EU3000 Handi, or 2 EU3000is, consider a parallel kit. The parallel kits include a built in 30A outlet (EU2000) or 50A outlet (EU3000), which is capable of providing the combined full power from both generators. Although the kit is more expensive than the parallel cords, it offers you more power from a single outlet.
If you have a regular EU2000i and the Companion model, you only need a parallel cord. You will be able to use the 30A outlet on the Companion to draw the full combined power of the two units.

The Companion has that handy 30-amp outlet, but it doesn't have a 12-volt outlet like the regular EU2000i... and the Companion costs more. The 30-amp outlet is the locking style (as used with a removable shore power cord), not the style that a campsite has, so you would still need an adapter to plug the Escape's power cord into it. Although the 12V output isn't a great charging source, I still wouldn't choose the Companion as the first unit, and maybe not even as the second.

[Tonny LR]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

Yes, but there is another alternative: two normal EU2000i generators and a parallel connection kit. You don't need either to be a Companion.

As explained by Honda:


The Companion has that handy 30-amp outlet, but it doesn't have a 12-volt outlet like the regular EU2000i... and the Companion costs more. The 30-amp outlet is the locking style (as used with a removable shore power cord), not the style that a campsite has, so you would still need an adapter to plug the Escape's power cord into it. Although the 12V output isn't a great charging source, I still wouldn't choose the Companion as the first unit, and maybe not even as the second.

Brian B-P,
Thank you for the info. You certainly made it very clear that the regular Honda EU2000i is the generator to get. This is the info I need. I was not sure which generator to get in the first place. I appreciated you for taking time to share this info.

Tonny LR