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Old 01-10-2020, 04:23 PM   #1
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indoor / outdoor thermometer installation

I'm getting an indoor/outdoor thermometer for our E21... the outside module is 'weather resistant' but not weather proof, so should be installed somewhere protected. I was toying with putting it in the front storage box, or perhaps under the propane tank cover... another idea was behind the spare tire cover but that wouldn't be convenient for battery changes....

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mine sits on top of the propane tank, under the propane cover, been working for close to 10 years that way. use some butyl tape to secure.
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My outdoor sensor sits inside the fridge.
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mine sits on top of the propane tank, under the propane cover, been working for close to 10 years that way. use some butyl tape to secure.
does heavy propane usage cause any chilling effect ? I know tanks get cold when you use a lot of propane, but I dunno if the flow rate to run the furnace is sufficient to create enough of an offset as what matters.
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does heavy propane usage cause any chilling effect ? I know tanks get cold when you use a lot of propane, but I dunno if the flow rate to run the furnace is sufficient to create enough of an offset as what matters.
Well you have a 50/50 chance because only one tank is in use at any time
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My outdoor sensor sits inside the fridge.
I have another set for the refer/freezer compartments...
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Well you have a 50/50 chance because only one tank is in use at any time
hah, true. and the chilling is more at the bottom of the tank than the top.
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Can't help on locations for the exterior sending unit....that's easy on our 5.0TA up under the kingpin arm. But here's the unit we use, the exterior component has held up just fine. The exterior unit has a rechargeable (USB) lithium battery and an on/off switch so I can just turn it on when we travel and easily recharge the battery.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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We have a 3 sensor indoor/outdoor termometer. We put one sensor in the freezer, one in the refer and the third one is in the front storage box. Seems to work fine in that location.
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hah, true. and the chilling is more at the bottom of the tank than the top.
Last fall we had a campfire with the campfire in a can. It was raining and the ground was wet. The fire lasted a while. My 10lb. tank was setting out in the rain, the campfire was under the awning. When I went to put things away in the dark I took hold of the tank and lifted it vertically. It was kind of stuck to the ground (read that frozen). I set in in the front box. The next morning while packing up I noticed a perfectly round bare circle in the grass. The plug was in the rim on the bottom of the tank. I carefully stepped it down in place. The state of Tennessee didn’t have a sign saying “Replace All Divots” but it was good campground etiquette. Those tanks get cold. No Glenn, I did not trip over the hose (that time).
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I kept mine tied to the bracket between the propane tanks, and did find that is lied at overnight temperatures when using the furnace. It also seemed to lag quite a bit on any temperature change - might be the bulk of the propane tanks.

In any case, I moved mine to the 5" fence post I have under the rear of the trailer I use to store my double folding step ladder. I keep it in a plastic zip lock bag to protect it from water. Seems to work better, although being close to the ground, it still lags compared to my weather station mounted on a pole 3' above the trailer.
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Frankly, I think the best you can hope for with any external temperature sensor is 'kinda.' Seems they're all affected if in bright sun, in the shade or someplace like a propane tank that maybe colder than the ambient air. I like this one. I can hang it from the king pin on my trailer...
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We have a 3 sensor indoor/outdoor termometer. We put one sensor in the freezer, one in the refer and the third one is in the front storage box. Seems to work fine in that location.
Like Chama we have the same indoor/outdoor thermometer. One sensor in the freezer, another in the refrigerator, and the third I put on top of the X chock regardless of which side of the trailer. My thought is putting it inside the storage box or propane cover can lead to a false reading.
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Tried velcro strap under propane cover but exterior sensor / transmitter kept falling off and landing in propane tank tray (lucky I didn't lose it on the road somewhere).

Moved the sensor / transmitter to just inside the lower exterior fridge vent. Seems to work fine there.
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Frankly, I think the best you can hope for with any external temperature sensor is 'kinda.' Seems they're all affected if in bright sun, in the shade or someplace like a propane tank that maybe colder than the ambient air. I like this one. I can hang it from the king pin on my trailer...
heh. i was at a small airport cafe, I think at Lake Isabella in the south Sierra Nevada, and in the parking lot was a weather rock, this rather large (maybe 2-3 feet on a side) granite boulder hanging on a heavy anchor chain.... the signage was much the same, except there was a final line about 'if this rock is moving, there's been an earthquake'.
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Tried velcro strap under propane cover but exterior sensor / transmitter kept falling off and landing in propane tank tray (lucky I didn't lose it on the road somewhere).

Moved the sensor / transmitter to just inside the lower exterior fridge vent. Seems to work fine there.
I stuck some butyl putty on mine, use it inside to keep things in place while under tow. Refer vent is a good also.
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I like this one. I can hang it from the king pin on my trailer...
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My sensor is currently mounted on the post between the propane tanks and I was also concerned that it would get chilled when propane was in use. I thought about getting a white spare tire cover so I could mount the temperature sensor on the spare tire carrier. But with the black cover I don't think it would be accurate. Any location is a compromise.
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Wherever I place mine, I get uncertain results.
I waited a couple hours for the readings to settle. If one sensor was on the coffee table near the lamp, it would read considerably higher. One placed on top of the other, away from the lamp, never reached the same readout.
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I installed some industrial velcro on the sensor and I mount it on the frame under the camper when camping and remove it when on the road. You might also look at a unit that will tell you both inside and outside relative humidity, which I find essential for managing humidity in the trailer.



ambientweather.com is a good site for such units.
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