Insulated window fogged, no choice but new window or glass?

[SouthernCamper]

We have the insulated/double pane windows and in one window there's a permanent fog between the layers. I've spoken with Escape and Lippert (the window brand). Lippert only warranties their windows for 1 year (grumble, grumble) and says there is no repair for the seal, we must either replace the glass or the whole window, the service rep wasn't sure.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to defog in between the layers or to repair the seal instead of getting a new glass/window?

[cpaharley2008]

I assumed these were just 2 panes of glass glued to one another, did not think there was any space in between......Which window is bad?

[ritacasita]

We too have a fogged window. I reported it to Lippert after 11 months from delivery date and I got a case number and they’re going to replace it. My dealer does not know how he’s going to fix it so he’s evaluating the process as we speak. As far as I know there is not a repair method to fix it other than replacement. I also have a stove recall issue with Dometic. Escape has been absolutely no help in either of these issues. They just quickly tell you to report it as a warranty issue and wash their hands of the problem and that really ticks me off that they would do that. Especially the oven it’s a safety hazard. Other than sending out the recall notice no help from Escape … zero zip zilch nada. I love my Escape but probably would not buy another one from them but assume any other similar unit would have problems too.

[SouthernCamper]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

I assumed these were just 2 panes of glass glued to one another, did not think there was any space in between......Which window is bad?

One of the double windows over the side of our bed on the driver's side. Our windows stick badly after long periods of disuse (the heat?) so I imagine that despite our efforts to slowly, slowly turn them open when stuck, a seal might have ripped/loosened with the force?

It's pretty frustrating to consider replacing the whole thing. Honestly we'll just live with a foggy window I guess since there's no reasonable fix. I feel like a 1 year warranty on a window is pretty skimpy.

[SouthernCamper]

Originally Posted by ritacasita

We too have a fogged window. I reported it to Lippert after 11 months from delivery date and I got a case number and they’re going to replace it. My dealer does not know how he’s going to fix it so he’s evaluating the process as we speak. As far as I know there is not a repair method to fix it other than replacement. I also have a stove recall issue with Dometic. Escape has been absolutely no help in either of these issues. They just quickly tell you to report it as a warranty issue and wash their hands of the problem and that really ticks me off that they would do that. Especially the oven it’s a safety hazard. Other than sending out the recall notice no help from Escape … zero zip zilch nada. I love my Escape but probably would not buy another one from them but assume any other similar unit would have problems too.

I feel like it would be helpful to know ahead of time which items are not covered in the Escape warranty, but it wouldn't have changed our purchase decision. From what I understand there are problems anywhere you go 🤷*♀️

[Fox hunt]

my first trailer a used 2012? 17B had a fogged window i had it replaced not very expensive my new trailer had a separated window bathroom covered under warranty really that's the only issues I've had except a few small maintenance issues- replaced my propane detector and a mother board on my used 17. I think these are very reliable well built trailers but yes there has been and will be some issues with some trailers. Many of the components made for RVs are not well made- stove top, refrigerator issues some window issues....but over all I've been happy which is why i bought my 5.0 after i sold my 17B. The recent stove issue is very scary (i have the oven so i don't have that stove top ) but that is very concerning. I would not want that in my trailer.

[Bea]

Originally Posted by SouthernCamper

We have the insulated/double pane windows and in one window there's a permanent fog between the layers. I've spoken with Escape and Lippert (the window brand). Lippert only warranties their windows for 1 year (grumble, grumble) and says there is no repair for the seal, we must either replace the glass or the whole window, the service rep wasn't sure.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to defog in between the layers or to repair the seal instead of getting a new glass/window?

If you are a DIY type, here is a link that shows how this guy remedied his foggy windows:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...FFJFkwUmOKY5JW

Lots of other Youtube videos that show similar remedies.....if you decide to fix it yourself. Best of luck, Bea

[JStelly]

We had a window fog up, passenger side , dinette on our 5.0. Luckily we were within the 1 year warranty window. I called Lippert and they told me to take it to a local repair dealer. I convinced them to ship me a window and I would replace it myself and save them some $. They agreed and I now have the new window. In the meantime, the old window has cleared so I’m holding on to the replacement for a time in the future when I will need to replace it.

I agree, that one year is too short for a window warranty period. On the other extreme, we have a lifetime warranty on our replacement windows in our home. We recently replaced a large picture window due to fogging at no cost for the window and only paid labor. This is how it should be done.

[cpaharley2008]

I yearly coat the rubber window gasket with this to maintain it...https://www.walmart.com/ip/303-Rubbe...4&gclsrc=3p.ds

[SouthernCamper]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

I yearly coat the rubber window gasket with this to maintain it...https://www.walmart.com/ip/303-Rubbe...4&gclsrc=3p.ds

Thanks! We're so humid here I wouldn't have thought such a thing was necessary, and I still think it's that it stuck so badly, but I'll do it! Do you put it on anything else?

[SouthernCamper]

Originally Posted by Bea

If you are a DIY type, here is a link that shows how this guy remedied his foggy windows:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...FFJFkwUmOKY5JW

Lots of other Youtube videos that show similar remedies.....if you decide to fix it yourself. Best of luck, Bea

Oh man I was game until about 22 seconds when he said you have to remove the whole window, separate the panes, and then reassemble. That's definitely a husband project for me and that's a no go lol. I was hoping for like poke a hole on a dry day, let it dehumidify, reseal, or something...thank you though! For someone VERY DIY that's a great option!

[azjack]

I occasionally apply silicon grease to the rubber seals to keep them from sticking.
I guess I had better do my 5.0 as soon as I finish the other work.
AZjack