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Old 12-16-2015, 08:43 PM   #1
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I know this is a very explosive subject to some people and I don't want it to become something that explodes out of control, so if this is going to create a problem feel free to remove it. That said my question is, since so many people on this site camp in more out of the way places do you carry any kind of protection? I know you can't take any thing into Canada but I'm talking about here in the states. I ask because it seems a lot of us aren't as young as we used to be. As some one I used to work with told me once "I can't do the things I used to be able to do." Again I don't want this to get out of control. Thank You.
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If you like, you can go over to FGRV and read several previous threads on the topic.
We'd like to avoid it here, since it never goes well.
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Old 12-16-2015, 09:34 PM   #3
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No doubt about it, it is a delicate subject. One of the moderators here did have a fairly long duration thread on FGRV that stayed on track with only a some firm guidance a couple of times.

One factual comment to correct part of your statement that you "can't take anything into Canada". You can and if you do some homework you can find out the exact situation. Actually the Canadian situation is easier because the rules apply nationally, there's only one set of rules to research as opposed to 50 sets of rules in the US.

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Old 12-17-2015, 07:53 AM   #4
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My avatar takes care of that for me.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:12 AM   #5
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Before we got a trailer I did some bike touring spending 15-30 nights a year in my tent. Toured most of the states in the lower 48. Since we got our Escape we spend about a hundred nights a year 'on the road'. The only protection I have ever carried is a whistle and a mixture of ammonia and water in a spray bottle for dogs. Never used the whistle. Rarely used the dog spray.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:05 AM   #7
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Best protection against Wasps is Wasp spray.
Best protection against ants is white vinegar.
Best protection against colds is Zinc and vitamin C.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:54 AM   #8
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:58 AM   #9
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Stun Guns

Glad this topic came up as I learned that my flashlight/stun gun I have mainly for protection against dogs are evidently illegal in Canada.
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Old 12-17-2015, 11:34 AM   #10
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Hi: All... I'm a real "Son of a gun". Anybody that gets the door open gets the outside table propped against the inside...outside!!! SURPRISE!!! Alf
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For protection, this stuff works quite well. Keeps you dry even on those really hot days.
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Old 12-17-2015, 01:12 PM   #12
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While I might agree that this discussion has been hed in FGRV, the OP asked a serious question and he deserves to be treated with respect. A couple of the follow up posts can readily be interpreted as poking fun at the forum member. While I expect that kind of "humor" on FGRV, I would like to think that we are above that here on the Escape forum. While I realize people may think they are being funny, I would ask how any other member here would feel if they asked a serious question and received that type of treatment. Sorry, I will probably offend someone but I found some of the responses uncalled for. I like humor, but not when it comes at someone's expense.
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Old 12-17-2015, 01:37 PM   #13
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While I might agree that this discussion has been hed in FGRV, the OP asked a serious question and he deserves to be treated with respect. A couple of the follow up posts can readily be interpreted as poking fun at the forum member. While I expect that kind of "humor" on FGRV, I would like to think that we are above that here on the Escape forum. While I realize people may think they are being funny, I would ask how any other member here would feel if they asked a serious question and received that type of treatment. Sorry, I will probably offend someone but I found some of the responses uncalled for. I like humor, but not when it comes at someone's expense.
Close to 15 years commuting to work by bike, in a very active (during salmon season) brown bear area. Bear bells on the bike, yell and make some noise when you come to the creek crossings. Bear spray in the water bottle cage, just in case. Have had more run ins with Moose than bears or my fellow man. Multiple deployments to southwest Asia. The only time we EVER take a firearm with us is on back country float trips. We use 12 gauge shotgun, electric fence and bear spray for bear protection for the times when we can’t find a gravel bar to camp on. Scott

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While I might agree that this discussion has been hed in FGRV, the OP asked a serious question and he deserves to be treated with respect. A couple of the follow up posts can readily be interpreted as poking fun at the forum member. While I expect that kind of "humor" on FGRV, I would like to think that we are above that here on the Escape forum. While I realize people may think they are being funny, I would ask how any other member here would feel if they asked a serious question and received that type of treatment. Sorry, I will probably offend someone but I found some of the responses uncalled for. I like humor, but not when it comes at someone's expense.
I feel the same way, while I like to have a lot of fun, I realized this was a serious subject to the poster. Therefore I went ahead and replied via personal message. I'm sure current events have colored the thinking of campers and non campers alike as well as heightened awareness. A personal message seems like the proper treatment in this case to me.
Just my $.02 American $.03 Canadian worth.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:01 PM   #15
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Scott, Thanks for a helpful answer for the OP. I own firearms but have never felt a need to carry one for protection. Of course, living in AK is a heck of a lot different than living in FL! The critters there will eat you.
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Scott, Thanks for a helpful answer for the OP. I own firearms but have never felt a need to carry one for protection. Of course, living in AK is a heck of a lot different than living in FL! The critters there will eat you.
Google Rovers Run trail in Anchorage, that's my commute route. One summer I had multiple bear encounters. The bears hear the bells and take off, have seen some huge paw prints on the bridges across the creeks. Scott

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While I might agree that this discussion has been hed in FGRV, the OP asked a serious question and he deserves to be treated with respect. A couple of the follow up posts can readily be interpreted as poking fun at the forum member. While I expect that kind of "humor" on FGRV, I would like to think that we are above that here on the Escape forum. While I realize people may think they are being funny, I would ask how any other member here would feel if they asked a serious question and received that type of treatment. Sorry, I will probably offend someone but I found some of the responses uncalled for. I like humor, but not when it comes at someone's expense.
I think the OP's guestion was answered in the second post. The topic has been brought up many, many times and a good source of info is and was directed to another web site. As gbaglo, (a forum moderator) implied in the second post, this topic often doesn't go well on this site. No offence was implied I'm sure.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:23 PM   #18
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Cruel, really cruel, we're not quite there yet.

Maybe PM's are a good idea in this case. And has been said, threads on that topic rarely go well. Perhaps some of the humor was a subtle attempt to defuse a potentially divisive thread. There's lot's of factual information out there and at the end of the day people probably carry on with the same behaviors and value systems that they already have at home.

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Cruel, really cruel, we're not quite there yet.

Maybe PM's are a good idea in this case. And has been said, threads on that topic rarely go well. Perhaps some of the humor was a subtle attempt to defuse a potentially divisive thread. There's lot's of factual information out there and at the end of the day people probably carry on with the same behaviors and value systems that they already have at home.

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Ron, I made my statement partly because the OP's post was only his 11th and didn't want to see a "newbie" get discouraged. Still, sometimes humor can be perceived as cruel. And while this topic rarely goes well, it's probably because people have heated opinions. To me, in an ideal world, Mr. Baglo's post (#2) could have ended it all. FGRV can get chippy. This forum mostly doesn't. I just hope it stays that way.
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