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02-06-2014, 12:07 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
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Ice- breaker,
Where did you have your radio installed. Going to get one and haven't decided on an install location yet. Did you have it "cut in" or surface mounted?
Thanks
Dave
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02-06-2014, 12:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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I don't have an installed radio / music system.
And after only five years I'm looking at new solutions to my entertainment system.
I started with an iPod and iPod dock ( that required AC or 6 AAA batteries ) and a Sirius satellite radio and a dock for it ( with AC and DC cords ). So then I had to get an inverter to ensure I had charging options.
I got a small 12VDC and 120VAC TV and a tiny 7" DVD player ( AC and internal battery ).
Now I have an iPhone ( with Bluetooth ), a Sirius App ( when WiFi is available ) and Bluetooth speaker.
I've got my MacBook Air and wife now has an iPad.
So, with changing technology, I could pretty much watch movies and TV ( streaming ), listen to iTunes library and satellite radio and do all that with fewer technological bits ( assuming WiFi ).
Given that I often camp where there is no WiFi, no AM or FM radio and no Weather radio or TV signal, I guess I'm gonna have to carry all my options with me.
But, what I don't have is hole in a cabinet that requires a certain size entertainment system to fill it, as technology advances.
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02-06-2014, 12:43 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave1
Ice- breaker,
Where did you have your radio installed. Going to get one and haven't decided on an install location yet. Did you have it "cut in" or surface mounted?
Thanks
Dave
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Ours was installed on the upper cabinet above the stove. The radio is quite thin, so it fit quite well mounted on the surface of the cabinet.
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02-06-2014, 01:05 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Ice-breaker,
Thanks for the quick reply and picture!! Glad to hear that it is thin and surface mounting works well. I agree with gbaglo as technology changes I don't want to cut a hole if I don't have to.
Dave
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02-06-2014, 01:07 PM
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#25
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kettering, Ohio
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 26
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Ice-Breaker,
Looks like a clean install.
Where did you mount the speakers?
Jim
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2013 Escape 19'
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02-06-2014, 01:55 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlgrillot
Ice-Breaker,
Looks like a clean install.
Where did you mount the speakers?
Jim
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Don't have recent photos of the speakers so I have attached a couple sent to us by Tammy during the build. Rear pair of speakers are mounted in the upper cabinet above the bed, and front pair of speakers are mounted under the front dinette overhead shelf.
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02-06-2014, 01:57 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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I also have one of these, as you travel you change the locale, it has over 200 Accuweather stations it picks up. I keep it mounted in BlackJack. Bushnell Wireless Ambient 5 Day Accuweather Weather Station Model 95 0005 | eBay
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02-06-2014, 01:57 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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To be perfectly honest, I probably spent a lot more time worrying about (and placing more importance on) stereos and speakers during the build than I should have. When it actually came down to using the 19' while camping, we spent most of our time outside doing stuff, and very little time in the trailer listening to the radio. However, I am pleased with the quality of the radio we did get.
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02-06-2014, 02:08 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
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I also agree with gbaglo - I don't want to cut unneeded holes in the face or loose cabinet space for the unit & speakers so I went with a good iPod dock. I have a Sony RDP XF100iP. It has a battery that runs it for about 6 hours, an aux input for my XM radio tuner, a lousy FM tuner, and a dock for my iPhone. Love the sound quality, but wish the FM section was better. I'm a NPR junky, and while it is available on XM radio, the selection is not all that good. If I have internet, I can use an app on the phone, but, of course that uses some of my data allotment.
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02-06-2014, 04:58 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
To be perfectly honest, I probably spent a lot more time worrying about (and placing more importance on) stereos and speakers during the build than I should have. When it actually came down to using the 19' while camping, we spent most of our time outside doing stuff, and very little time in the trailer listening to the radio. However, I am pleased with the quality of the radio we did get.
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Not that I spent a lot of time planning, I just bought the undermount stereo from Escape, but it really does not get used that much. It does work great when it does, but if there ever is a next time, I will go with a portable system.
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02-06-2014, 05:58 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cottage Grove, Minnesota
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 365
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Our entertainment system consists of an iPhone, iPad and a bluetooth speaker. We might add a tv at some point but we watch very little tv at home these days.
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02-06-2014, 06:07 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cargofool
I think the statement
A full two-year warranty is included on the completed Escape trailer.
means, or should mean, that there is a full 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. This should mean that if a manufacturer of an accessory product fails to honor their warranty, Escape's 2 year warranty will apply.
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Although the About the Escape page includes the statement
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A full two-year warranty is included on the completed Escape trailer.
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an automobile manufacturer typically makes a similar statement about "bumper to bumper" coverage (although 3 years is currently more common), and that warranty explicitly excludes the tires, which are covered by the tire manufacturer. RV manufacturers take this approach much further, so the trailer warranty normally covers stuff actually built by the trailer maker (frame, fiberglass shell, cabinets, wiring, plumbing...) but not the stuff they just install.
I hope there is a more specific statement of the warranty to be reviewed and accepted by the purchaser prior to completing an order, but I don't see it in the web site. Of course, I'm the same person who didn't find the ad for a used trailer because it was in the news stream...
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02-06-2014, 06:59 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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More on the warranty...
I was looking at information about Chalet truck campers (mentioned in an unrelated thread), and noticed that the details of the warranty are included in their owner's manual. This is not the Escape warranty, or even one for another travel trailer, but it is from a typical RV manufacturer. They include this section:
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EXCLUSIONS
The scope of this warranty is expressly limited to only items actually constructed by Chalet. Chalet therefore makes no warranty with respect to component parts constructed or assembled by other manufacturers, including, but not limited to, all electrical devices (TV, sound systems, DVD player, antennas, batteries, etc.), the propane appliances, electrical appliances, heaters, refrigerators, plumbing fixtures, light fixtures, lights, entrance door and windows. Such component parts may be warranted by their respective manufacturers, and copies of such warranties are included with the Camper.
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I don't have an Escape (yet), and I don't see an owner's manual on the ETI website (although it may be there and I just can't find it), so perhaps a current owner could check to see if this sort of exclusion detail is in the Escape warranty.
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02-06-2014, 08:22 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Marysville, Washington
Trailer: 2022 Coachmen Nova 20C
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The 2012 Escape 19 owners manual, with warranty, has been uploaded to the Files section of this forum.
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02-06-2014, 11:14 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulw
The 2012 Escape 19 owners manual, with warranty, has been uploaded to the Files section of this forum.
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Thanks!
I should have thought to look here, in addition to the ETI site.
Downloading from the files section is not working for me, but I'll try it from a different computer tomorrow.
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02-07-2014, 11:41 AM
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#36
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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It was just a compatibility issue (I can download to a Windows machine, but not my Android tablet), so I now have the Escape owners manual.
Although the Escape warranty covers a list of "Escape manufactured and installed components", including the "Electrical system", it explicitly does not cover
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Tires, glass, appliances or those items which are under separate
warranty from the respective manufacturers or where warranty service
is available from their authorized facilities throughout Canada.
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This is as I would expect, and I believe that it means that the radio is covered by the manufacturer or distributor of the radio, and not by Escape.
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02-07-2014, 11:56 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
This is as I would expect, and I believe that it means that the radio is covered by the manufacturer or distributor of the radio, and not by Escape.
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Which only makes sense. Otherwise you would have to return the offending appliance to Escape, and they would have to send it to the manufacturer.
Much easier to go to a local authorized service centre.
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02-07-2014, 10:14 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Gabriola Island, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 2013 Escape 5.0
Posts: 97
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Thanks, all. Well, we seem to be off track with my original question, but that's okay! To be clear, I had no intention of inferring that ETI was responsible for the warranty only that a) I would ask Reace and co for their help - it could simply be that I'm doing something silly or not! and b) if there is a problem, I intend to inform ETI so they can either reconsider their choice of stock radio, or not. Which is what everyone should do if there's an issue with a component What ETI doesn't know, they can't fix.
Christine
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02-07-2014, 10:36 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Suspect there is no authorized service centre on Gabriola Island.
Have you phoned Escape to see if they can trouble-shoot it over the phone?
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02-08-2014, 07:26 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Gabriola Island, BC, British Columbia
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We're travelling in southern California at the moment and we've bought a new portable stereo for the time being - we needed one anyway for home - and I'll check with Escape when we pass by for other repairs. Thanks for the thought though, gbaglo :-)
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