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Old 11-30-2022, 11:36 PM   #1
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Stuck Carpet Storage

At the Rally last year, a fellow Escape owner told us how they stored their outdoor carpet on top of the frame between the front storage box and the front of the trailer.
We went and bought a carpet and it worked well by folding up the carpet and sliding it in. It traveled that way for the whole summer, was quick and easy to store and remove and stayed in place while driving.

In hindsight I advise against this because for what ever reason the carpet has now jammed itself between the frame and the fibreglass shell and is "staying in place".

Besides pushing and pulling, I tried a wooden wedge and hammer, trying to twist the frame on various small inclines and slopes and will probably have to cut it.

Is anyone storing their carpet in an additional Sewer Hose & Storage Compartment?
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Old 12-01-2022, 09:24 AM   #2
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We have used the side access hatch on rhe 19
And now on rhe 21z we keep ours in a slick material nylon bag with a drawstring. Pulls out easily, stays protected and doesn’t drop debris on other things in the compartment.
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Old 12-01-2022, 09:40 AM   #3
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I wonder if moisture caused it to expand and it just needs to dry out.
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Old 12-01-2022, 11:23 AM   #4
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Your only solution might be to remove the storage box. It is a pain to have to empty it, and to remove batteries, but in the end it may end up being the fastest and causing the least damage.
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Old 12-01-2022, 01:40 PM   #5
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I wonder if moisture caused it to expand and it just needs to dry out.
Or get wet if it's dry - I'd be trying both options were it me.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:02 PM   #6
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Your only solution might be to remove the storage box. It is a pain to have to empty it, and to remove batteries, but in the end it may end up being the fastest and causing the least damage.
You might be able to get it free by just loosening the bolts and lifting up on the edge of the storage box without removing it.
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Old 12-01-2022, 05:59 PM   #7
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You might be able to get it free by just loosening the bolts and lifting up on the edge of the storage box without removing it.
Sort of looks like would be the best option. Trying to cut it and pull bits out could prove to be awkward and not all the productive.

But we're having cold temperatures right now. It could be that it's stiffer than in the summer and is kind of molded in place. If it is in a place that almost or below freezing I'd probably try pouring very hot water down on it to soften it up.

I have a front storage tube in that location but it's not a large enough diameter to hold anything but a door mat size carpet.

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Old 12-01-2022, 07:53 PM   #8
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Stubborn person that I am, I would probably rig up a gantry and hook into a loop of it with a cable winch, and try pulling it straight up with mechanical advantage.
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Old 12-01-2022, 10:40 PM   #9
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At the Rally last year, a fellow Escape owner told us how they stored their outdoor carpet on top of the frame between the front storage box and the front of the trailer.
We went and bought a carpet and it worked well by folding up the carpet and sliding it in. It traveled that way for the whole summer, was quick and easy to store and remove and stayed in place while driving.

In hindsight I advise against this because for what ever reason the carpet has now jammed itself between the frame and the fibreglass shell and is "staying in place".

Besides pushing and pulling, I tried a wooden wedge and hammer, trying to twist the frame on various small inclines and slopes and will probably have to cut it.

Is anyone storing their carpet in an additional Sewer Hose & Storage Compartment?
Get a pair of channel lock pliers clamp down on both ends and yank as hard as you can. Hopefully that will free it up.
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Old 12-02-2022, 08:58 AM   #10
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Get a pair of channel lock pliers clamp down on both ends and yank as hard as you can. Hopefully that will free it up.
Yeah, I was thinking a pair of vice grips. They don't require a strong grip where channel locks do.


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Old 12-02-2022, 10:01 AM   #11
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At the Rally last year, a fellow Escape owner told us how they stored their outdoor carpet on top of the frame between the front storage box and the front of the trailer.
We went and bought a carpet and it worked well by folding up the carpet and sliding it in. It traveled that way for the whole summer, was quick and easy to store and remove and stayed in place while driving.

In hindsight I advise against this because for what ever reason the carpet has now jammed itself between the frame and the fibreglass shell and is "staying in place".

Besides pushing and pulling, I tried a wooden wedge and hammer, trying to twist the frame on various small inclines and slopes and will probably have to cut it.

Is anyone storing their carpet in an additional Sewer Hose & Storage Compartment?
Lube it up....dish soap or moisturizer should help get it to slide out. Really work it into the piece that is stuck, try putting to squirt bottle right in there and give it a good squirt. Then get the vice grips. The dish soap would be my first choice because it will wash right off.
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Old 12-02-2022, 11:46 AM   #12
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Stubborn person that I am, I would probably rig up a gantry and hook into a loop of it with a cable winch, and try pulling it straight up with mechanical advantage.
Ah, the old hit it with a hammer, if that doesn't work, hit it with a bigger hammer approach. Yep, sometimes I resort to a brute force approach, win some, lose some.

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Old 12-02-2022, 11:56 AM   #13
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Lube it up....dish soap or moisturizer should help get it to slide out. Really work it into the piece that is stuck, try putting to squirt bottle right in there and give it a good squirt. Then get the vice grips. The dish soap would be my first choice because it will wash right off.
Dish soap is an excellent idea in addition to warm water.

Maybe after it's wet and soaped up laying underneath and taking a short piece of wood, like 3/8" x 1 1/2" and tapping it upward starting at the end of the brown carpet and moving sideways might work it loose.

Mark, I've gotta say, there's been so many issues and questions on the same topic over and over again, but you've managed to find a never before discussed topic.

It will come out, one way or the other, but this pretty much guarantees that no one else will ever be putting carpets in that space.

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Old 12-02-2022, 03:45 PM   #14
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For clarity, the mat is worked it's way under the fibreglass shell of the trailer itself and the steel frame. It's in there and short of unbolting the shell from the frame and lifting it I believe cutting it is the only solution.

Mainly wanting to let people know that while it appeared to be a good storage solution, long term it is not.

I can see why so many of a truck for towing because of all the extra storage.
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Old 12-04-2022, 01:54 PM   #15
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At the Rally last year, a fellow Escape owner told us how they stored their outdoor carpet on top of the frame between the front storage box and the front of the trailer.
We went and bought a carpet and it worked well by folding up the carpet and sliding it in. It traveled that way for the whole summer, was quick and easy to store and remove and stayed in place while driving.

In hindsight I advise against this because for what ever reason the carpet has now jammed itself between the frame and the fibreglass shell and is "staying in place".

Besides pushing and pulling, I tried a wooden wedge and hammer, trying to twist the frame on various small inclines and slopes and will probably have to cut it.

Is anyone storing their carpet in an additional Sewer Hose & Storage Compartment?
This might work for you.
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Old 12-04-2022, 02:37 PM   #16
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I have one of those up front and I tried putting our outside mat in it. Just couldn't roll it up tight enough to fit.

Depends on the size of the mat. Small ones would fit.

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Old 12-05-2022, 12:44 PM   #17
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I have one of those up front and I tried putting our outside mat in it. Just couldn't roll it up tight enough to fit.

Depends on the size of the mat. Small ones would fit.

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Since I'm cutting mine up, what size would you recommend that would fit.
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Since the tube is perhaps 8 feet, that will be your limit in one direction....
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Since the tube is perhaps 8 feet, that will be your limit in one direction....
I think that the maximum feasible length is about 80". At least that's what I made mine.

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Since I'm cutting mine up, what size would you recommend that would fit.
My tube is only 3" and is only used for some aluminum poles but I think that I rolled my larger outdoor carpet up tightly and decided that even a 4" diameter tube wouldn't be large enough. I could fit a 4" tube because of the way I installed my box. Don't know if you have that option.

I'd roll the carpet tightly and see how large a tube it would need.

I'm wondering if something like a 6" diameter tube couldn't be placed at the rear, maybe attached to the two brackets that hold on the bumper. PVC is available in all sorts of diameters.

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We just roll up our outdoor mat and throw it in the back of the Expedition.
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