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08-28-2013, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Toilet Leak
After about 5,000 miles we have developed a fresh water, toilet leak. Since we just picked up the 15 in April, this is not related to winterizing or freezing. It is very slow but will eventually puddle around the base and flow onto the floor area. Unfortunately, the toilet is so close to the wall that I can't even see if the connection can be tightened. We will be making the long trip to Chilliwack since there appears to be no way to see what the problem is without pulling the toilet itself. Anyone else have a slow leak due to valve or connections? Notice there appears to be mildew from constant wetness.
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Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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08-28-2013, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Contact Escape. I'm confident that they will direct you to a nearby RV shop to remedy the problem.
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08-28-2013, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 374
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We had a similar issue. When the toilet was installed the connection was cross threaded which eventually caused an inconsistent leak. I had it fixed locally and Escape reimbursed me for the work. On mine the toilet valve needed to be replaced.
Steve
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Steve and Cynthia
San Antonio, TX
Escape 19 "Why So Serious?"
2019 Chevy Silverado RST 1500, 5.3L
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08-29-2013, 06:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Trailer: 2016 21' sold, current class C, Now looking
Posts: 150
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On my casita, they use the thetford toilet as well, there was a slow leak at the valve/ water module. I fixed it myself but I would call escape and see what they would do as it looks like it would be under warranty
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08-29-2013, 06:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: _, Texas
Trailer: Escape 5.0 SA
Posts: 544
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On my Escape, I cut in a water shutoff valve just in case I develop a problem while out traveling. Our friends had a Thetford flush valve failure which caused them undue grief while camping with us.
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08-29-2013, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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That is why I'm having one installed on my new Escape.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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08-29-2013, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Posts: 737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveandsandyclink
On my Escape, I cut in a water shutoff valve just in case I develop a problem while out traveling. Our friends had a Thetford flush valve failure which caused them undue grief while camping with us.
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Where did you put the cutoff valve? ...not much space to work back there!
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Fran & Dave Albuquerque, NM
2013 to 2022 had a 2008 Escape 5.0 Classic
2011 Frontier Crew Cab Short Bed Pro4x
Sold both 7/22
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08-29-2013, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: St.Albert, Alberta
Trailer: 21 ft November 17th
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the water line comes through the wall from the dinnette seat area above the black tank, I regret not having a shut off valve put in, The next time I have that are opened up I will put one in. Its very easy, its just 1/2 inch pex line so a standard 1/2 inch pex shut off valve is all that is required. then if a leak at the toilet happened while on the road you could shut the toilet off and and least have the rest of the water system up and running while you wait to fix it.
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2016 GMC Yukon SLT
St.Albert Alberta
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08-29-2013, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave macrae
the water line comes through the wall from the dinnette seat area above the black tank, I regret not having a shut off valve put in, The next time I have that are opened up I will put one in. Its very easy, its just 1/2 inch pex line so a standard 1/2 inch pex shut off valve is all that is required. then if a leak at the toilet happened while on the road you could shut the toilet off and and least have the rest of the water system up and running while you wait to fix it.
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Thanks. I'll go look in our 5.0 and see if it can go someplace under the seat. We did this in our previous Scamp 5er after we had a flush valve crack during the winter...but we put it in near the toilet since we had everything out to replace the flush valve.
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Fran & Dave Albuquerque, NM
2013 to 2022 had a 2008 Escape 5.0 Classic
2011 Frontier Crew Cab Short Bed Pro4x
Sold both 7/22
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08-29-2013, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave macrae
the water line comes through the wall from the dinnette seat area above the black tank, I regret not having a shut off valve put in, The next time I have that are opened up I will put one in. Its very easy, its just 1/2 inch pex line so a standard 1/2 inch pex shut off valve is all that is required. then if a leak at the toilet happened while on the road you could shut the toilet off and and least have the rest of the water system up and running while you wait to fix it.
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Wish we had had that! Have to put it in some time. We were leaving on a very big trip though that time, so just as well to get it fixed. While on a trip, that would be a life-saver.
Tim and Julie, you get an award for being able to get those photos.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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08-29-2013, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: _, Texas
Trailer: Escape 5.0 SA
Posts: 544
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Dave,
Look inside your front driver side access door with the front leg controls. If your 2008 is built like my 2012 you will find the water supply line to the Thetford toilet making a U-turn. That's were I installed my valve.
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08-29-2013, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveandsandyclink
Dave,
Look inside your front driver side access door with the front leg controls. If your 2008 is built like my 2012 you will find the water supply line to the Thetford toilet making a U-turn. That's were I installed my valve.
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Thanks! I checked our 2008 and it is exactly the same...we'll be picking up a valve this week!
Fran & Dave
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Fran & Dave Albuquerque, NM
2013 to 2022 had a 2008 Escape 5.0 Classic
2011 Frontier Crew Cab Short Bed Pro4x
Sold both 7/22
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08-30-2013, 06:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
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This valve looks like a good idea. Having never worked with this tubing, how does one cut it?
Thanks
Dave
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08-30-2013, 06:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Any sharp knife will cut Pex pipe. I do have a set of cutters that make it easier, but not necessary for a couple cuts.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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08-31-2013, 01:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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OK, we got our toilet shut-off valve in!
Took a bit of time to saw through the PEX with a serrated knife and then a GOOD bit of hand and arm strength to get the ends of the PEX onto the valve. Not a whole lot of room to work but better than working around the toilet! Seems to work fine...it certainly came in handy in our previous trailer so we were glad to have a way to do the same thing in the Escape.
Thanks for the photos!
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Fran & Dave Albuquerque, NM
2013 to 2022 had a 2008 Escape 5.0 Classic
2011 Frontier Crew Cab Short Bed Pro4x
Sold both 7/22
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02-17-2014, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
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That's next on my bucket list
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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02-17-2014, 08:14 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Harbor Freight has a PEX cutter. Not the best in the world, no commercial business would want to use it, but good enough for the few cuts a TT person would want to do. Cheap!
PVC Pipe Cutter w/ Ratchet Action
If I remember right, the cut-off valve to the toilet is an OPTION on the build sheet... get it, get it, get it!
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02-17-2014, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5TA
Posts: 405
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Unfortunately it is not an option in the 5 TA
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02-17-2014, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Posts: 737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki A.
Unfortunately it is not an option in the 5 TA
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If the 5TA is like the Classic 5.0 then it is a pretty easy DIY. The access to the line is in the driver's side hatch.
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Fran & Dave Albuquerque, NM
2013 to 2022 had a 2008 Escape 5.0 Classic
2011 Frontier Crew Cab Short Bed Pro4x
Sold both 7/22
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02-17-2014, 09:24 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki A.
Unfortunately it is not an option in the 5 TA
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Vicki... everything is an option if you ask EXCEPT the stainless steel backsplash. Reace won't do THAT again!
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