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07-20-2020, 08:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
A future ban on sales and a current fee for operation in a specific zone are very different from a diesel ban in the city.
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You ruin everything.
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07-20-2020, 10:12 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar1
Several years ago I had a Ram 1500 with the V-6 they had at the time, a 3.7 I believe. It was a dog.
Fast forward several years and I have a Dodge Durango with the Pentastar V6 and an 8 speed transmission. It tows our 3,000 lb Scamp easily and the difference in perceived power is amazing! Torque start down low in the RPM band and the 8 speeds really help.
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The PowerTech 3.7 L was probably the earlier V6 in this case, used in the 2002-2012 Dodge/Ram 1500. It was replaced by the Pentastar 3.6 L, which is still the current engine. While both are V6's and they are of nearly the same displacement, they are very different in design and construction. There was an even earlier Chrysler 3.8 L V6 (used in Jeeps but not Ram pickups) which had even less power; I find it amusing that each engine in this sequence is trivially smaller than the previous, but substantially more powerful as the design moved from pushrod to SOHC to DOHC.
The transmission is probably a significant part of the perceived different in engine performance, but there is a substantial power output difference, particularly at higher engine speeds. This experience illustrates why advice based on experience with outdated vehicles and engines isn't of much value in making decisions about current vehicles and engines.
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07-29-2020, 10:52 AM
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Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Lake Country, British Columbia
Trailer: 2016 19 foot Escape
Posts: 38
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We have been towing our 29 with a KIa sorento v6 for four years. We live in BC lots of mountains, no problems. Your choice seems more than adequate.
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07-29-2020, 10:58 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Granby, Colorado
Trailer: 2011 Casita SD
Posts: 4
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I have the V-6 ECO Diesel in a 2015 Jeep GC towing an Escape 21. The only problem I have had is on the long uphill pull heading West out of Denver. I found that I had to use the paddle shift to hold the RPMs at about 3500 to avoid overheating. Other wise, great combination. Now have 132 k miles on the Jeep and hope to get many more.
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07-29-2020, 11:33 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Trailer: Escape 21”
Posts: 10
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There’s a great function on the Ram website where you can put in your VIN and it spits out the payload and max towing capacity for your specific truck.
Example:
Results
2019 RAM 1500 BIG HORN LONE STAR CREW CAB 4X2 5'7" BOX
8-Speed Automatic 8HP75 Transmission
MAX PAYLOAD
1850.00LBS
MAX TOWING
11540.0LBS
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07-29-2020, 02:50 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Kenora, Ontario
Trailer: 1973 boler
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I couldn’t agree more I pulled a 13’ boler with a Honda Accord.
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07-29-2020, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
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I pulled my Montgomery Ward 14 ft aluminum fishing boat with my 1978 Ford Fairmont
I was young , stupid and broke .
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07-29-2020, 04:08 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
I pulled my Montgomery Ward 14 ft aluminum fishing boat with my 1978 Ford Fairmont
I was young , stupid and broke .
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Been there, only thing that has changed much for me is the "young".
Mine was a Ford Maverick with 3 kids pulling a "Shell Lake" fiberglass tri-hull
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07-29-2020, 04:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Calais, Maine
Trailer: 21 foot 5.0 fifth wheel 2017
Posts: 89
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I am towing a 21 foot 5.0TA with a dodge ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi........bite the bullet, never have enough uphill power but the 5.7 is a beast
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07-29-2020, 10:03 PM
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#50
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Pugetopolis, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 21NE
Posts: 64
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Videocrafters
We are ordering a 19 and will need to upgrade our vehicle. Was thinking of a ram 1500 and wondering if a v6 would be enough for the mountains or should I just bite the bullet and get the v8.
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The Ram Eco Diesel is a 6 cylinder. It is one of the best towing vehicles out there. We average 16-17 mpg towing our Escape 21 in Washington, back & forth over the Cascade Mountain Range. The hemi V8 supposedly has even more towing power but the 3.0 liter Eco Diesel is amazing.
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07-30-2020, 08:08 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Naples, Florida
Trailer: New 21 Escape (not classic)10/16 Sold Lil Snoozy 7/16
Posts: 484
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V-6
My friend has a Ram 1500 tradesman with a v-6 I’m not sure of the rear end but it’s a very basic truck .He pulls a 19 ft Hurricane boat about 3500 lb It pulls great down in flat Florida 65 mph no problem. .
So if this will be your only vehicle and only tow a little the V-6 should be fine This is not your Fathers V-6 this is a lot stronger more torque and Hp then many V-8 of a few years back Jim W
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07-30-2020, 10:57 AM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
Trailer: 2005 Scamp 16 SD (sold), 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
I pulled my Montgomery Ward 14 ft aluminum fishing boat with my 1978 Ford Fairmont
I was young , stupid and broke .
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I pulled a friends bass boat with my 72 Ford Pinto. Guess I was younger, stupider, and broker.
He had a boat, and I had a hitch, so why not! We did survive somehow.
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