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06-06-2021, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Santa Rosa County, Florida
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 Tow: 2024 Toyota Tundra
Posts: 3,105
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Travel with tanks either full or empty, but not half-full. In that situation the contents can slosh back and forth when towing, setting up an instability. It seems to occur to me when I'm being passed by a large truck. The experience is unnerving and might be unsafe.
When on a long trip with multiple camping stops I usually travel with the fresh water tank full and the other tanks empty. This is because you never know the condition of the fresh water supply and the dump station at your next stop.
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06-06-2021, 12:58 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Victoria, Texas
Trailer: 21C Jan. 15, 2021
Posts: 358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
Travel with tanks either full or empty, but not half-full. In that situation the contents can slosh back and forth when towing, setting up an instability. It seems to occur to me when I'm being passed by a large truck. The experience is unnerving and might be unsafe.
When on a long trip with multiple camping stops I usually travel with the fresh water tank full and the other tanks empty. This is because you never know the condition of the fresh water supply and the dump station at your next stop.
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Excellent advice. Thanks.
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06-06-2021, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,373
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I have no stability problems towing with 1/3 full fresh water tank & empty gray & black. I keep the 1/3 tank for bathroom stops, and fill it just before heading into a dry camp.
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06-06-2021, 03:14 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Arroyo Grande, California
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 78
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Travel with full tanks
I travel into a rugged dusty washboard road in AZ once Yearly and my Escape TOTALLY empty. I find our similarly dusty camp spot, set up and then go to a water spot down the road with my 3 gallon jugs. The extra pounds of liquid weight on the way in would be too much stress. It’s washboard as only Arizona can do it... definitely slow going. When at creeping
Speed on that road, I’m still having to bungee stuff inside and check for loose screws. Don’t want to have to worry about trying to bungee a freshwater tank.
Emjay
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06-06-2021, 03:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emjay
When at creeping
Speed on that road, I’m still having to bungee stuff inside and check for loose screw
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Unless there are potholes, I travel washboard at about 60kph ( 35-40 mph ). There is a sweet spot for the suspension to run smoother.
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06-06-2021, 03:39 PM
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#26
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Arroyo Grande, California
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 78
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Travel with full tank
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Unless there are potholes, I travel washboard at about 60kph ( 35-40 mph ). There is a sweet spot for the suspension to run smoother.
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Yes there are those who do that but that dust gets inside everything and I try to minimize.
Emjay
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06-09-2021, 12:18 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: None
Posts: 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perryb67
So we shouldn’t travel to Alaska?
Enjoy,
Perry
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Sure, why not? Lots of people do, well not right now due to Covid but once the Canadian/American border opens the roads to Alaska will be open and good to go.
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06-10-2021, 03:47 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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If I'm going further than a few hours I travel with the fresh water empty. If it a quick trip than I fill it up at home.
There's nothing worse than pulling into the park and waiting for fresh water.
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06-10-2021, 08:31 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,636
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Whenever possible, I travel with all tanks empty. Going to Jasper tomorrow for the weekend where I know it is easy to fill the freshwater tanks (and dump the black/gray). Will fill up when I get there and dump before I return home.
Some trips, I will fill the freshwater about 1/2 full or less before leaving just in case we need a bathroom break.
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06-10-2021, 08:48 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Overbrook, Kansas
Trailer: 2021 E19 (Padawan)
Posts: 1,978
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Whenever I can, I travel with freshwater full and black and gray empty, but it’s not always possible. Most of the time; however, I can do this.
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1998 C 2500 (Cruncher) and 2021 Ranger (Yoda)
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06-10-2021, 11:40 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Abiquiu, New Mexico
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 2017 GMC Canyon Duramax Diesel
Posts: 329
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
I have no stability problems towing with 1/3 full fresh water tank & empty gray & black. I keep the 1/3 tank for bathroom stops, and fill it just before heading into a dry camp.
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John, this is what we do also, same percentage. I have towed with full fresh water tank and I thought the trailer felt a bit squirrely going down the road at 65mph so stopped doing that.
Chama
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06-10-2021, 12:11 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Felton, California
Trailer: 2018 21' ; 2014 19' (Sold)
Posts: 1,309
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We've always towed with our tanks empty, making sure if we're going to a 'dry' spot, we're cognizant of nearby fresh water. We were boondocking early last year and filled up the water tank at the designated 'fill spot' before heading to the campsite. When I stepped into the trailer after filling, I was quite surprised to see how much the trailer had lowered. That in itself got us to thinking about how much weight a full tank of water adds (28 gal x 8.34 lbs = 233.5 lbs). In case of on-the-road bathroom use, I always have a gallon of water in the blank tank (with Happy Camper) and we carry a couple of jugs of water for flushing.
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06-11-2021, 01:17 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Seal Beach, California
Trailer: 2022 Lynne's Escape19 TV GMC 1500 4x4 Diesel/
Posts: 100
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The pothole that they hit was in the Yukon. So it was a Canadian pothole and since they weren't in Alaska it couldn't be an American pothole.
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06-11-2021, 02:05 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,720
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We always leave home with a full tank of fresh water as we never know where we will be should there be a break down.
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06-11-2021, 02:28 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
The pothole that they hit was in the Yukon. So it was a Canadian pothole and since they weren't in Alaska it couldn't be an American pothole.
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American potholes are bigger and deeper.
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06-11-2021, 02:38 PM
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#36
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Trailer: April 2016 21' "Ramble On"
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Quote:
That in itself got us to thinking about how much weight a full tank of water adds (28 gal x 8.34 lbs = 233.5 lbs).
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Assuming a fairly level ground, the physics of pulling a trailer change from slower speeds to highway speeds. At slow speeds, weight matters more and will reduce gas mileage (think stop-and-go traffic). At highway speeds, weight matters less and wind drag becomes a dominant factor as far as gas mileage. Things change again when climbing hills at highway speed.
233.5 Lbs equals approximately one midwestern male
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06-11-2021, 04:01 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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You probably save more fuel by turning off the radio so that you're not subconsciously pumping the gas pedal to the beat.
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06-11-2021, 06:34 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Paonia, Colorado
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17B
Posts: 147
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gbaglo, I traveled on a VERY bad washboard, pothole filled and rutted road in the northern San Rafael Swell in Ut last Oct. There were over a dozen broken things on my 17B :-( My Tacoma 4WD package was fine. I know it was bad because all the spice jars had their lids rattled off and in the bottom of the box those jars are stored in. Ugh not doing that again. But I've been know to be a little extreme in the backcountry.
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06-11-2021, 06:41 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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It doesn't matter how tight the nut on my pepper grinder, when we arrive the lid is off, nut is somewhere in the cupboard and peppercorns are everywhere. I took to using gaffer tape to keep the unit together.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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06-11-2021, 08:32 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
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Happens to us too Glenn, even on a 40 minute trip on paved roads! This week I found it on the floor, but the top still on, since the cupboard it was in opened, also a mug but unbroken.
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We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
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