Use frame for jack tire change?

[johnnyv]

Thx Myron, looks good. Will be in your neck of the woods in September. Santa Fe, any tips ?

KInd regards

[Dave Walter]

While working on the trailer at home (changing/rotating tires, brakes, bearings, etc.), I use a heavy duty floor jack lifting under the frame close to the axles. Works great for me as it is super fast and little effort to use.

[Iowa Dave]

I’ve got a little 6 ton bottle jack that works great on a 2X8 or 2X10. I take it along in every trip. In the shop I use a floor Jack. And always jack stands.
Iowa Dave

[noblets]

Originally Posted by Iowa Dave

I’ve got a little 6 ton bottle jack that works great on a 2X8 or 2X10. I take it along in every trip. In the shop I use a floor Jack. And always jack stands.
Iowa Dave

Great idea on the jack stands.
A picky suggestion from a former mechanic: try to get your torque value while the wrench is still moving.
To say it a different way: if you stop turning before you get the click, you will likely get the click as soon as you start turning again. Back the fastener off a few degrees and start your turn again.
It takes more torque to start turning a fastener than is actually applied.
If you put a lot more torque on the fastener than is specified, you run the risk of stretching the bolt or stripping the threads.
Us anti-seize sparingly.

[Dcboyd]

Originally Posted by Dave Walter

While working on the trailer at home (changing/rotating tires, brakes, bearings, etc.), I use a heavy duty floor jack lifting under the frame close to the axles. Works great for me as it is super fast and little effort to use.

This is what I use at home. So easy.

[oldwave]

Originally Posted by GregandTeresa

We carry the trailer aid product. While we fortunately have never had to use it, our neighbor did use it on his much larger dual axle camper and it worked very well.

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/camc...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

I have on in the back of my truck. I expect if I don’t take it I’ll have a flat.

[Doug2000]

Why use a jack? I use a couple wood blocks kept in my front storage box. This TRAILER AID seems to work too, but where do I store that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf36FuuV3qM

[Doug2000]

Some people use anti seize on lug nuts, some don't. Most mechanics will tell you not to. I am a Millwright Machinist and would tell you both are correct. Do what you please, but look up the torque rating for dry and wet and proceed.

[Wakefido]

Interesting that this subject came up right now. We were just on a trip where we looked in our truck rear view mirror to see that the driver side tire on our 21’ was disintegrating. Seems we had picked up a shard and the flat tire quickly was destroying itself. We pulled onto a side road and wondered the same thing….how do we jack the trailer such that we can change the tire, not exactly knowing where to place a jack. My wife came up with an idea and it seemed very logical so we tried it. We loosened the lug nuts on the destroyed tire first while it still rested on the ground. Then, using those yellow levelling blocks we stacked them (we have 2 sets and you would need 2 sets) such that we could drive the remaining good tire up onto the highest spot on the blocks. This took the destroyed tire completely off the ground so the we could change it. Drive back down off the blocks and re-tighten the lug nuts. Off we go. I think that placing the yellow levelling blocks under the wheels eliminated the risk of our putting a jack in the wrong place and stressing the frame in some way. Hope this idea helps.

[Dream]

Wakefido and all. This week I replaced my wheels and tires with Hi Spec wheels and Goodyear Endurance tires. Your solution was a good one and similar to what I did. I used an Andersen Rapid Jack which worked really well. It is exactly like the Andersen levelers except taller which would be necessary in some circumstances. Be sure when using it to keep the mud flap out of the way when jacking up the back tire. I still don't have a solution without jacking up using the frame for the odd event of both tires going flat.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Dream

I still don't have a solution without jacking up using the frame for the odd event of both tires going flat.

The Rapid Jack and similar products might not be tall enough to get a wheel with inflated tire on the other axle when the wheel up on the ramp has a flat tire, but driving one (flat) tire up on a taller ramp would still work, as long as it will roll.

[C&G in FL]

Originally Posted by Doug2000

Some people use anti seize on lug nuts, some don't. Most mechanics will tell you not to. I am a Millwright Machinist and would tell you both are correct. Do what you please, but look up the torque rating for dry and wet and proceed.

That is true. However, what ETI specifies is a dry torque value. If using a lubricant and torquing to the ETI specified 90-95 ft-lbs, the nuts are likely over torqued. The torque value is established to “stretch” the bolts (lugs), but to not over stretch them. If properly stretched, the tension will keep the nut from loosening.

I have never used a lubricant, have not broken a single wrench, nor have I ever had a frozen nut, even when I lived in a climate where road salt was used. I have had difficulty removing lug nuts when I check for correct torque after some idiot “technician” over tightens them with an impact wrench. My trailer wheels get removed once a year, and although I no longer do it myself, the tires on both my vehicles get rotated with every oil change (5,000 miles). If I weren’t performing periodic routine maintenance on trailer wheels, or rotating vehicle tires, then maybe I would worry about frozen lug nuts. But YMMV; everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Dream]

Brian B-P I doubt the Rapid Jack would work with both tires flat. For that possibility I am cutting a 16 inch piece of 2x6 to use with the truck bottle jack under the frame between the tires. One spare tire available to limp to help. I hope I never have to use it.

[Dcboyd]

Originally Posted by Doug2000

Why use a jack? I use a couple wood blocks kept in my front storage box. This TRAILER AID seems to work too, but where do I store that.

Some want to change out tires or work in the area without hooking up tow vehicle. On road traveling Aid or Blocks are necessary.