|
|
06-06-2017, 09:25 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
water heater DSI FLT ?
what does this light next to water heater switch mean?
thanks!
|
|
|
06-06-2017, 09:42 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
apparently, the gas mode of water feature will not light up.. this is just my 2nd time using gas mode.
|
|
|
06-06-2017, 10:04 PM
|
#3
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
|
DSI means direct spark ignition. FLT means fault.
That means it tried to ignite the burner on the water heater but failed. First thing is to check your propane supply. 2nd (for me) would be to check the burn chamber to see if it is clogged with carbon flakes. Ours was after only a few days of camping. Once I cleaned it out, the water heater has worked perfect ever since.
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
|
|
|
06-06-2017, 10:07 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
Thanks for the quick reply rbryan. Is there instructions somewhere on how to locate and clean the burn chamber?
|
|
|
06-06-2017, 10:09 PM
|
#5
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
|
Its behind a cover. There are a couple screws that hold it in place. The cover is rather largish and square metal. Can't miss it. Once the cover is off, take a long skinny brush or even an elongated and rolled up paper towel and just run it through the opening to clean it.
Edit: this thing.
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
|
|
|
06-06-2017, 10:13 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
okay, thanks! i will try it tomorrow when cooled... as we are busy using the electric mode for now to take our showers.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:11 PM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
I tried and cleaned the burn chamber to no avail.. it looks pretty clean to me.
Any other suggestions?
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:50 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Fremont, California
Trailer: 2016 21. '15 Ford Explorer V-6
Posts: 1,558
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJY
okay, thanks! i will try it tomorrow when cooled... as we are busy using the electric mode for now to take our showers.
|
LJY, If your electric switch is turned on at the water heater and you are hooked up to shore power, the water heater will default to electric. I do not believe you can use propane as your source without turning off the outside switch. Don't know if you originally had the outside switch on or off when trying to use propane.........
__________________
Steve and Debbie
2016 - 21'
“Get out the map and lay your finger anywhere down” -Indigo Girls
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:12 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,363
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Clark
LJY, If your electric switch is turned on at the water heater and you are hooked up to shore power, the water heater will default to electric. I do not believe you can use propane as your source without turning off the outside switch. Don't know if you originally had the outside switch on or off when trying to use propane.........
|
You can use both heat sources with your water heater. While there is not really a need to, using both lets you heat up the water faster.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:24 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
thanks all for the help. I saw on the inside panel some instructions for lighting up the water heater for PR models and another set for D models. I followed the D model instructions that is basically 1. turn off all electricity and gas supply. wait 5 minutes 2. turn on gas supply 3. turn on electric switch (I didn't know which switch it meant so I did both the electric mode and gas mode switch)
and the DSI FLT light is not coming on any more... but I don't know if the flame actually lit.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:34 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Fremont, California
Trailer: 2016 21. '15 Ford Explorer V-6
Posts: 1,558
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
You can use both heat sources with your water heater. While there is not really a need to, using both lets you heat up the water faster.
|
Ah! Thanks, Jon. We've never tried that, and didn't know it was possible?
__________________
Steve and Debbie
2016 - 21'
“Get out the map and lay your finger anywhere down” -Indigo Girls
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 08:20 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJY
...
and the DSI FLT light is not coming on any more... but I don't know if the flame actually lit.
|
If the inside switch controlling propane operation is on, and the fault light is off, it seems to be working. In this case, "no news is good news".
The burner only comes on when heat is needed (there's no pilot light), so if you open the outside cover and look the burner may not be running at the time you look - that's okay.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 08:38 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,126
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
You can use both heat sources with your water heater. While there is not really a need to, using both lets you heat up the water faster.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Clark
Ah! Thanks, Jon. We've never tried that, and didn't know it was possible?
|
No "default" to electric when plugged in, but obviously the element turns on if already switched on. It does not preclude (lock out) the use of propane. It was either explained wrong by ETI or interpreted wrong by someone at their factory walk through. Combo operation has been mentioned in other threads and may be useful if you have electric available and predict a larger demand than usual on your hot water:
For the Suburban SW6DE:
Gas (12,000 BTU/H burner): 10.2 GPH recovery
Electric (1440 W element): 6.0 GPH recovery
Combined: 16.2 GPH recovery
Combinations Gas & Electric Water Heater
These numbers obviously highlight the fact that gas operation has a greater ability to heat the water faster than electric in case someone thinks they will run electric to save propane and then is curious why their hot water capacity is lower than when they may have used it on propane.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 09:46 PM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
so, upon first usage tonight, the dsi fault light came on again.. arghh..
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 10:07 PM
|
#15
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
|
We were also told that it defaults to electric.
We primarily use electric but mostly only turn it on for an hour in the morning and an hour at night. So usually off. Unless it is really cold weather, that is all we need to have hot water.
__________________
Cathy. Floating Cloud
"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 10:40 PM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,126
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJY
so, upon first usage tonight, the dsi fault light came on again.. arghh..
|
Does it light up and then go out or stay on indefinitely? I'm not sure how the wiring is on the newer trailers, but on the older trailers the fault or "reset" light is lit while the unit is firing and then goes out once lit. The water heater will attempt 3 tries before locking out which is indicated by the fault light staying on continuously. If there is air in the line it may take several full cycles to get it lit. Once locked out flip the toggle switch to off for 5 seconds and then toggle back on which will restart a new ignition cycle. Each full ignition cycle will take a little bit of time because there is a 15 second purge prior to spark cycle. Try running the stove first for a bit to reduce air in lines. Also check you have good propane pressure and that the high temperature limit safety didn't trip. This is rare to trip unless there is a problem with the thermostat and requires a manual reset outside on the black module in the upper left. Just push both resets (there is a second one for electric operation) and you should feel if one resets. If it happens to be the high limit and it trips again obviously something is wrong and needs to be fixed.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 10:49 PM
|
#17
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
Thanks, rubicon. I've tried running stove top, furnace, and fridge without issues. tried that switch so many times since yesterday.. and yes, our 2017 model will try to light 3 times and stay lit if it doesn't light up.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 11:40 PM
|
#18
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,126
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LJY
Thanks, rubicon. I've tried running stove top, furnace, and fridge without issues. tried that switch so many times since yesterday.. and yes, our 2017 model will try to light 3 times and stay lit if it doesn't light up.
|
Upon further review of the water heater wiring diagram the high limit safety needing a reset cannot be a potential cause of your issue. The high limit is inline with the internal on/off switch so if it was tripped the water heater would not even attempt to light. It is just like the internal switch being off and not allowing the 12V D.C. to the module board to initiate lighting.
|
|
|
07-06-2017, 02:32 AM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Nor, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape
Posts: 234
|
Update: ETI sent a new circuit board for me to replace next to the water heater. It worked after that. Apparently, mine wasn't the only one bad board. Reace had tried to bring a replacement to me but that one didn't work either.
|
|
|
07-06-2017, 08:23 PM
|
#20
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
|
Hi Teddy. I just replaced my circuit board a few days ago too.
Fred M.
__________________
Fred M.
"Whoever said retirement was overrated...
...never had an Escape"
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|