Water Pump Issue - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Problem Solving | Owners helping each other
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-26-2014, 12:28 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Elgin, Illinois
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 5
Water Pump Issue

I've just gone through the dewinterization process on my 2013 Escape 19. Everything went well except I cannot get water from my taps when using the water pump. I hear the pump running but no water comes from any of the taps. I've filled the fresh water tank 1/3 full. Because I couldn't get water from the fresh water tank I hooked up a hose to the city water intake and I have no issues with getting water then. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
__________________

cschambach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 12:30 PM   #2
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 20,705
Quote:
Originally Posted by cschambach View Post
I've just gone through the dewinterization process on my 2013 Escape 19. Everything went well except I cannot get water from my taps when using the water pump. I hear the pump running but no water comes from any of the taps. I've filled the fresh water tank 1/3 full. Because I couldn't get water from the fresh water tank I hooked up a hose to the city water intake and I have no issues with getting water then. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Have you turned the valves on the water heater bypass, if so it will take awhile to fill the water heater before water comes from the spigot. Check the water tank again, you may have emptied it into the water heater.
__________________

__________________
Jim
"Never in doubt,..... often wrong!"
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 12:46 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Elgin, Illinois
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 5
Yes. I made sure the hot water tank was filled with the water from the city water intake before turning on the heater. The fresh water tank still shows 1/3 full and the water pump keeps running even if there are no taps open.
cschambach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 01:06 PM   #4
Site Team
 
padlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: 5.0 TA #6, 2012 F150 EB
Posts: 6,059
If you have a winterizing kit installed, it may use valves to direct the antifreeze to the pump or the water tank, make sure they are back to the fresh water tank.
__________________
Happy Motoring
Bob
padlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 01:32 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Elgin, Illinois
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin View Post
If you have a winterizing kit installed, it may use valves to direct the antifreeze to the pump or the water tank, make sure they are back to the fresh water tank.
Thanks, Bob, but I don't have a winterizing kit installed.
cschambach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 02:02 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: n/a, Texas
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 443
CS,
My pump ran a little while this spring before it pumped water, maybe 20 secs. It sounded like it had lost its prime and was trying to pump air before the water came through. All I can suggest is making sure the intake line to the pump is tight and that the intake line doesn't have any apparent holes. The info I have from pump manufacturer says the pump can be run dry indefinitely without a problem.
Viajante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 03:15 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Phoenix Area, Arizona
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 762
Symptom: Pump won't shut off AND it runs very quietly. (It is MUCH noisier when working right.)

I have had the pump run for a few minutes to reprime itself after draining the tank. Opening a faucet and letting the water/air run helps.
jamman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 04:06 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,450
With air in the line it is not uncommon to have this kinda behavior, but if bled it should not. I would double check that you did completely purge the air out of the hot water tank and lines? Otherwise, there is likely an issue with the pump itself, either not getting to pressure, or not sensing that it is.
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 04:24 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 14,210
Removing the aerator from the faucet and cleaning out debris caught in it solved my problem with my water pump.
If it works, it's a quick fix. Just pay attention to which parts go back in what order and which side up.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 05:01 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: N/A, Indiana
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 980
Add another 5 gallons to the fresh water tank and try again. The tank liquid indicators are not accurate.
__________________
"Never argue with an idiot. They only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." George Carlin
Jubal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 06:10 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubal View Post
Add another 5 gallons to the fresh water tank and try again. The tank liquid indicators are not accurate.
Yeah, good thought.
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 07:04 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Jrn56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cottage Grove, Minnesota
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 365
I had the same thing happen this spring and adding more water and opening a faucet for a couple minutes did the trick.
__________________
John and Brenda
Cottage Grove, MN
Jrn56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 07:54 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
BRietkerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Surrey B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Posts: 141
I overcame this problem once by opening the sink tap, turning the pump on and sucking on the tap. Pulled the airlock through the pump and away it went!
__________________
Brian
BRietkerk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 09:15 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRietkerk View Post
I overcame this problem once by opening the sink tap, turning the pump on and sucking on the tap. Pulled the airlock through the pump and away it went!
Any chance you made a video of this procedure?
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2014, 10:16 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
barry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape "Classic" 5.0 SA
Posts: 460
Quote:
Originally Posted by cschambach View Post
I've just gone through the dewinterization process on my 2013 Escape 19. Everything went well except I cannot get water from my taps when using the water pump. I hear the pump running but no water comes from any of the taps. I've filled the fresh water tank 1/3 full. Because I couldn't get water from the fresh water tank I hooked up a hose to the city water intake and I have no issues with getting water then. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
I just had to replace my two year old pump and found after I replaced it it was doing the same thing you are describing. I found that that hose clamp on the clear hose coming out of the water tank was not tight enough and it was sucking air there; once tightened it worked like a charm.

Another thing; if you winterized and didn't release the water out of the one way check valve, located just inside the city water inlet, then you may have damaged that valve and you could be sucking air through the city water inlet. Also, check that your low point drain is tight and no air is being sucked through there.

Barry
__________________
Photography website: https://bjustice.zenfolio.com

2012 Escape "Classic" 5.0 SA / 2017 F150, 2.7 EcoBoost 4X4 Supercab
Former trailers: 2005 Escape 17B / 1972 Boler 13'
barry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2014, 01:18 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
BRietkerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Surrey B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Posts: 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett View Post
Any chance you made a video of this procedure?
I am trying to avoid fame.
__________________
Brian
BRietkerk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2014, 10:28 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
techfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 860
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRietkerk View Post
I am trying to avoid fame.
I think this might be a example of infamy.
__________________
Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
techfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2014, 10:42 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRietkerk View Post
I am trying to avoid fame.
Quote:
Originally Posted by techfan View Post
I think this might be a example of infamy.
No doubt.
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2014, 11:17 PM   #19
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Elgin, Illinois
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 5
Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions. I had placed a call to Reece and he basically said it's due to air in the line from when I winterized it. His suggestion was, as some of you have said ~ open a tap and fill the fresh water tank till it overflows and if that doesn't work, suck on the kitchen tap while the pump is running. Problem is, I can't try this for a couple of weeks as my trailer is back in storage right now. I'll report back, as this will probably be an annual occurrence.

This site is SUCH a GREAT resource!!!
cschambach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2015, 07:15 PM   #20
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Sequim, Washington
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 1
I just went through this while on the road. Tammy suggested several things including sucking on the tap. Nothing worked so I was ready to contact Sure Flo. But while I was hooked up to city water at a friends, the bathroom sink started spitting air and the problem was solved. I do not know why I could not get it to do that earlier, perhaps traveling 300 miles jiggled the air out.

As to why this happened, I have a theory. During my last tank filling before the problem, I had let the hose over fill the tank with a lot of pressure. In other words, water was gushing back out of the air vent . I think it forced some air downs the line into the pump causing an "air lock." I'll not make that mistake again.
__________________

Clarabelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
dewinterization, fresh water, water pump

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×