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03-10-2017, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member
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What is this switch in the dinette?
Okay, I've read the entire owner's manual front to back and I still can't figure out what this switch is for that's in the dinette area. There's mention of a battery cutoff switch (in the manual), but I don't know if this is it since there isn't a photo of what it looks like. It didn't come with any labels. I'm sure I was told during orientation, but it was too much to expect my brain to remember.
Thanks!
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03-10-2017, 08:13 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yep, battery cut off switch.
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03-10-2017, 08:16 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
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That is the battery cutoff switch. Being on battery power and then turning off the switch will tell you in a hurry. Loren
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03-10-2017, 08:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
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And don't forget that you need battery power to operate your refer even if it's running on propane. So if your refer won't start, check to make sure you haven't accidentally cut off your battery power.
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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03-10-2017, 08:45 PM
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Thanks folks. Time to print another label out!
And, Karen, nice tip on the frig situation. Didn't know that about the propane.
I'm pretty sure it's in the Up position, so that means I've not cut off my battery supply. In the Down position I wouldn't be running off the trailer's battery, correct?
Do I need to flip this switch when I'm hooked to shore power? If not, when the heck do you use it?
I know there was mention of it in the manual, but I just looked and I couldn't find it. It's not listed in the Table of Contents nor did I find mention of it in the Electrical System section or the battery in the Care and Maintenance section.
Going nuts here trying to get last minute stuff figured out before Sunday! Ack!
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03-10-2017, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Cat Owner
Do I need to flip this switch when I'm hooked to shore power? If not, when the heck do you use it?
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No. The only time it would be off is during long term storage of the trailer. Any time you are using the trailer, it should be on.
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03-10-2017, 08:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
No. The only time it would be off is during long term storage of the trailer...
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...and that is to eliminate any phantom load on your battery when the trailer is in storage.
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Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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03-10-2017, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Cat Owner
Thanks folks. Time to print another label out!
And, Karen, nice tip on the frig situation. Didn't know that about the propane.
I'm pretty sure it's in the Up position, so that means I've not cut off my battery supply. In the Down position I wouldn't be running off the trailer's battery, correct?
Do I need to flip this switch when I'm hooked to shore power? If not, when the heck do you use it?
I know there was mention of it in the manual, but I just looked and I couldn't find it. It's not listed in the Table of Contents nor did I find mention of it in the Electrical System section or the battery in the Care and Maintenance section.
Going nuts here trying to get last minute stuff figured out before Sunday! Ack!
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Yes, you want that battery switch on. Not everyone has "on" facing the same way. Our "on" is up. I hope that they are staying with that but some have had the opposite. The switch will turn off your propane detector. Anyone with solar, with the switch off, their solar should still work as it is bypassed. We turn the switch off for storage. Someone working on the trailer might need it off for some reason.
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03-10-2017, 10:50 PM
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Laura, As others have mentioned, the propane detector is a vital safety feature whenever you are using the camper, but it appears to also be a real power hog on the on-board battery(ies). We have the solar option and want to rely on it to keep our single 12V battery charged up while we're not using the camper. But just one overcast, rainy day, and our battery dropped a full bar on the little graphic display. Sure, it charged right back up when the sun came out. But if it was garaged with no sunshine, based on the above, the battery could be dead in less than a week. But flip that toggle switch to "OFF" - no drain on the battery. Just be absolutely sure to flip it back ON when you start using the camper again. It's pretty easy to remember, because nothing (not even the dome or captain's lights) will work when it is OFF. It should have been labeled. Something that important, I bet ETI would send you one of their standard labels (which it should have had in the first place) to post below the switch.
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03-10-2017, 11:28 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Hello NW cat owner.
So sorry about your loss.We are so attached to our dogs and cats.
Now, that battery switch at the dinette.I ordered a cover for it so I wouldn't get it shut off by accident.
Found the cover on Amazon for a few dollars,Shipped from California.Comes in different colours.Ordered a blue one to match upholstery.
Take care.
Allan.
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North Vancouver
Trailer Escape 21
2017
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03-11-2017, 01:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
Just be absolutely sure to flip it back ON when you start using the camper again. It's pretty easy to remember, because nothing (not even the dome or captain's lights) will work when it is OFF.
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True that nothing inside the trailer should work, but it is important for owners to know that it does not kill everything 12V on the trailer. Brian B-P explained this best in a prior thread. Some things always have power if a battery is connected like the breakaway switch for brakes. This is good in case you forget to turn the switch on right away after pulling it out of storage it still keeps this safety mechanism intact.
http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f9...tml#post183859
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03-11-2017, 09:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allan Bornestig
... Now, that battery switch at the dinette.I ordered a cover for it so I wouldn't get it shut off by accident. Found the cover on Amazon for a few dollars,....
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Allan, Do you have an item name or part number I can use to search Amazon. I seem to be finding everything except what I think we need to protect that switch. Initially, I didn't think we would need to protect it, but after inadvertently hitting it a couple times with my leg, I now think it's a great idea before I break it. Dale
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03-11-2017, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
Allan, Do you have an item name or part number I can use to search Amazon. I seem to be finding everything except what I think we need to protect that switch. Initially, I didn't think we would need to protect it, but after inadvertently hitting it a couple times with my leg, I now think it's a great idea before I break it. Dale
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Hi: War Eagle... A plastic Wallo Mart custard cup with the proper size hole drilled in the bottom is enough to cuddle the switch and protect it from being shut off inadvertently. It doesn't hurt to have a close friend and 5.0TA owner who already did this mod either. Sorry no pic's as yet. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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03-11-2017, 10:22 AM
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Location: Ventura County, California
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03-11-2017, 10:26 AM
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I haven't come to grips why the switch is that accessible. First chance I get, I will relocate it next to the battery under the seats and something else will fill in the hole.
The only times I could see that switch being used is for long term storage which in Texas, really doesn't happen. We travel all year long. If you are a full timer, it makes even less sense. So why install it right where it can easily be bumped?
Oh well, one more item on the list.
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03-11-2017, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
I haven't come to grips why the switch is that accessible. First chance I get, I will relocate it next to the battery under the seats and something else will fill in the hole.
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Maybe we are an exception, but in over 6 years with the 19, it never once got accidentally hit. I see some folks taking precautions, but how often has it been accidentally hit, and if so did it cause any big problems?
If it were located elsewhere, it would be better with an easier access than under a bench, though it would be best right near the DC supply, and that does not leave a lot of options.
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03-11-2017, 10:54 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Hello Dale and all.
Regarding the switch.I have been purchasing most of my stuff from Amazon, but this one came trough EBay.com.Sorry my mistake.
Here it is:Look for switch guard cover.Scroll down to:Toggle switch safety guard or cover.
# on our blue is 665011.Comes in many different colours.Easy to install.
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North Vancouver
Trailer Escape 21
2017
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03-11-2017, 11:28 AM
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Here is the direct link , Allan. Swtich Guard
Looks good.
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03-11-2017, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
...but how often has it been accidentally hit, and if so did it cause any big problems?
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Only once in four years. No big deal.
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Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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03-11-2017, 11:33 AM
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Thanks Eric.
Perfect.
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North Vancouver
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2017
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