Back-up Camera , is it worth it?

[PGDriver]

I guess using the mirror to shave or put on make up would also be within allowable perimeters if you don't look to long. Lol

Cheers
Doug

 

[gbaglo]

Show me data that proves looking at a rear view monitor is any different from viewing the same image in a mirror......that data does not exist.

I don't have to show you data. I don't care what you think.
I'm not trying to persuade you of anything.
I am just presenting the information that is available from the US government agencies that have (probably) spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and several years reviewing studies and presentations and made a decision.
And, that is their opinion.
We have seat belts and air bags and impaired driving laws too.

 

[Jimrules]

I am just presenting the information that is available from the US government agencies that have (probably) spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and several years reviewing studies and presentations and made a decision.
And, that is their opinion.

Thanks for the link it's an interesting read. As for the studies that have been done, I found this further down the page.

"While the rearview image defined in this final rule has been designed to enable a driver to detect pedestrians such as small children directly behind the vehicle during backing maneuvers, we have not evaluated the safety implications of using this rearview image in high speed forward moving situations as it was not part of the safety problem today's rule is designed to address."

So, much like this thread, I don't think any hard conclusions can be drawn from it.

I'm not saying that rear view cameras are necessary and I'm not convinced that they're bad. But heck, when I started driving passenger side mirrors were an option that most people wouldn't spend money on. Fortunately things change, I'm sure all this will too.

 

[gbaglo]

You have more endurance than I for reading documents such as these.

 

[C&G in FL]

And, that's what the hearings are all about, with input from the major automakers and other interested parties. Where do you get the information you stated, that there is no data?
I'm not going to quote pages and pages. I provided the link.

I don't have to show you data. I don't care what you think.
I'm not trying to persuade you of anything.
I am just presenting the information that is available from the US government agencies that have (probably) spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and several years reviewing studies and presentations and made a decision.
And, that is their opinion.
We have seat belts and air bags and impaired driving laws too.

Glenn, I am not trying to persuade you of anything either. Please note that you asked me first where I got my information that there is no data. So in a sense, you were asking me for data. I, too, do not have to show you data as I was merely presenting my opinion that the so-called hearings were conducted by bureaucrats who typically have their heads where the sun doesn't shine. And I would disagree with you that these agencies SPEND millions, I would content that more often they WASTE millions. Not trying to aggravate or argue with you. I find the rearview camera beneficial in heavy traffic areas when I am towing among aggressive, lane changing drivers who are often exceeding speed limits and cutting off other drivers. If you do not believe that a rearview camera is another weapon in the war to avoid accidents you are entirely entitled to your opinion. From what I have read in this thread, most forum members who have installed rearview cameras share my opinion. But that doesn't mean those who do not share that opinion are wrong.

 

[gbaglo]

As I said, I was reporting information that was available on US government sites.
I've already invested more in this topic than I wanted to.
Hopefully, others who are considering a backup camera on their trailer will read this thread and make their own decision.
I'm sure there are studies and data about employing rear view cameras when moving forward at speed, somewhere.



BTW. In the traffic situation you describe, I believe I would be paralyzed and the camera would be of little value.

 

[Jimrules]

You have more endurance than I for reading documents such as these.

Ha ha, yeah. Some years ago I started (got tricked into) teaching an OSHA certification class, and it has had some side effects.
(I should probably mention that OSHA is the department that sets federal work safety standards for the US.)

 

[gbaglo]

OSHA is also a common crossword answer.

 

[Karen H.]

(I should probably mention that OSHA is the department that sets federal work safety standards for the US.)

Although I knew what OSHA stands for (having worked in the pulp and chemical industry), it's good to explain these acronyms. There have been a few in recent posts that I had no clue what they meant.

And your avatar reminds me of Yertle, the Turtle, which makes me smile!

 

[Jimrules]

:horse3:
I'm surprised I didn't think to post this earlier. The CHEVY Bolt EV (that's electric vehicle, Karen ) is going to have a wide angle rear view camera integrated into the mirror.

 

[Jimrules]

And your avatar reminds me of Yertle, the Turtle, which makes me smile!

Yertle is a great book but but my avatar is from a different story.

"A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!""

—Steven Hawking, 1988

 

[gbaglo]

What I like is that apparently it has conventional mirrors and you can spill your coffee.

 

[Karen H.]

:horse3:
I'm surprised I didn't think to post this earlier. The CHEVY Bolt EV (that's electric vehicle, Karen ) is going to have a wide angle rear view camera integrated into the mirror.

Okay, once again, I'm in the minority as I find all this technology distracting. So there ya go. And, no, I can't do the data now but recent studies have shown that multi-tasking is not what it's cracked up to be.

 

[gbaglo]

What you gonna do anyway?
I say put it all behind you. :whistling:

 

[captmath]

When I do my mirror scan, the camera gets the same attention as the other mirrors. It may not be legal, but I am not seeing how it is more dangerous than using the regular mirror when not towing.

 

[Iowa Dave]

I like to live by the mantra "I do one thing, I do it very well, and then, I move on. It's how I devour a large plate of food also. If things are meant to be mixed, I do that before I start. Dining and driving are not multitasking jobs. No backup camera for me, I like to get out and look or deploy my navigator.
Dave

 

[tractors1]

I have the "clips over the mirror" monitor so it's the same routine for the mirror checks, but I see behind the trailer instead of just seeing a big white box following me ......

 

[Patandlinda]

:horse3:
I'm surprised I didn't think to post this earlier. The CHEVY Bolt EV (that's electric vehicle, Karen ) is going to have a wide angle rear view camera integrated into the mirror.

Wow . Just watched the video you posted . I may be old but I want one ! Thankyou . Pat

 

[Brian B-P]

I guess using the mirror to shave or put on make up would also be within allowable perimeters if you don't look to long. Lol

I get that this is a joke , but seriously...
Using a rear-view mirror doesn't make it part of driving, or anything but a distraction.

 

[captmath]

My driving instructor in 1962 told me to scan both mirrors (no passenger mirror required back then). My defensive driving refresher class in 1980 said the same thing. Do they not teach that anymore?