Escape 5.0 - Truck Payload Survey

[rvnovice]

Escape 5.0 owners: Can you please share the payload value posted on your truck, and whether that amount of payload has been adequate or marginal? I don't want to operate close to the truck limits, or to be severely constrained in loading the truck and Escape trailer for camping.

This will be our first RV, and I'm trying to get a handle on a reasonable truck payload that will work well with the Escape 5.0 trailer. As best I can tell, the truck I am considering ordering would fall in the 1400 to 1700 payload range.

For reference, the truck we are considering is a 2024 145" WB F150 4x4 Lariat trim, but the payload value from anyone towing an Escape 5.0 would be useful information.

Thanks!

 

[jjdeluca]

Our 2023 F-150 XL SuperCrew 4x4 with 3.5L ecoboost & 5.5' bed has a listed payload of 1991#. However, as aftermarket additions, I've added a "Roll n Lock" tonneau cover, Rhino Linings spray-in bed liner, & Husky Liners front & rear floor liners which probably reduce the payload by about 200#. But still feel like we've got plenty of payload capacity for my wife & I and the two dogs when pulling our 5.0 (with the rail mount Andersen Ultimate hitch set up).
Jim

 

[occer]

Payload 1877 lbs

2018 Chevy Silverado 1500, 2 wheel dr, 6 1/2 bed. 5.3 V8
I get about 15 mpg when hauling the trailer.
1877 payLoad
Rail system and Anderson Hitch.
Lifting the Anderson in and out of the truck is just easier.
Truck handles the trailer well.

Anderson Hitch weighs in at about (35 lbs) plus safety chains @15 lbs
The Curt’s hitch available to me is (112 lbs)

 

[zzlay]

I'm towing a 2022 5.0 that weighs around 4700 lbs with a 2023 F-150 with the max tow package with 1746lbs payload. We've made two trips so far and the trailer tows beautifully. Plenty of power and there's no trailer sway at all. 12-14mpg towing. This is plenty of truck and a well balanced rig. Super happy!

 

[claude6543]

I bought my truck specifically because I was planning to buy a 5.0
I wanted zero worries related to payload and size of truck bed.
Ended up getting:

Ram 1500
Crew cab
4x4
5.7L
Tow package
3.92 axle
6.4 bed
1773 lb payload
10900 towing capacity (!!)

 

[breeves2245]

Thanks for asking this question. I am a future 5.0 owner and have a 2022 Ram 1500 with 1,884 payload and was wondering about the same payload capacity.

 

[Perry Butler]

Our 2015 F150 XLT, extended cab, 3.5 EB, 3.31 rear end, 4x4 had a payload (CCC sticker on drivers door) of 1970#'s and pulled the trailer 5,000 miles with zero issues.

Our 2019 F150 Lariat, quad cab, 3.5 EB, 3.55 rear end, 4x4 has a payload of 1730 #'s pulled our 5.0 17,000 miles, also with no issues.

We figure of our mileage is about 50% pulling, 50% around the area we're camped once we get there.

Both had/have Max Tow packages, rail mounted Andersen hitch, and 6 1/2' bed. Tires were replaced on both trucks at about 60,000 miles and they easily had 10,000 miles of safe tread left. 95% of driving is when out camping, with about 50% of the driving actually pulling the 5.0.

We now pull a 6,200# Bigfoot 25RQ with the 2019 F150, with no issues with weight or braking, using a E2 WDH. So far we've been out camping with the Bigfoot for 19,000 miles. We travel with the truck/camper about 10,000 miles a year.

Enjoy,

Perry

 

[escape artist]

Escape 5.0 owners: Can you please share the payload value posted on your truck, and whether that amount of payload has been adequate or marginal? I don't want to operate close to the truck limits, or to be severely constrained in loading the truck and Escape trailer for camping.

This will be our first RV, and I'm trying to get a handle on a reasonable truck payload that will work well with the Escape 5.0 trailer. As best I can tell, the truck I am considering ordering would fall in the 1400 to 1700 payload range.

For reference, the truck we are considering is a 2024 145" WB F150 4x4 Lariat trim, but the payload value from anyone towing an Escape 5.0 would be useful information.

Thanks!

Hi: rvnovice... The payload cap. for my 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4 is 893lbs. This is due to the full load of "Bells and whistles" in the truck. Therefore I bring lite beer and Slim Fast to drink/eat. If my wife gains anymore weight she'll have to stay behind!!! :whistling: Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie (usually)

 

[rvnovice]

1790 lbs payload!

The truck was delivered and the payload is 1790 as shown in the online towing calculator. The only options I added to the 4x4 Lariat 501A trim were the 3.5L EcoBoost, the Tow/Haul package, the telescoping tow mirrors, and the Trailer TPMS package (which included the bed camera). I was hoping for 1800 lbs payload, so 1790 lbs is a good outcome.

 

[land’SCAPE]

My '13 Tundra only has a payload of 1,410#. I bought it with the trailer & it's a Limited. I wouldn't opt for the Limited if I had purchased it new, as those bells and whistles steal from your payload. (I don't think I have as many 'passenger' options as Alf!) I've toyed with upgrading my older Tundra for greater payload, but it so incredibly reliable and pairs so well with my 5.0 I can't see the point. The 2013 Tundra had best-in-class brakes that year, which I really like as well. I added a Timbren spacer suspension kit in the rear, together with Bilstein shocks. Highly recommend! The ride is great when pulling the trailer - not so much at home, without though, but then we don't drive it here much anyway. We are careful calculating the load on the truck & we do get fairly close, but in the past two years we've been to the top of NFLD & back and ONT. and back again this year. Zero issues. So, FWIW, I think 1,790# feels like it should just fine! Have fun!!

 

[Centex]

Escape 5.0 owners: Can you please share the payload value posted on your truck, and whether that amount of payload has been adequate or marginal?

The truck was delivered and the payload is 1790

My 2022 Lariat SuperCab with 6.5ft box has a payload of 1848#. Per Cat Scale checks I've effectively reduced that to 1420# available payload with a number of aftermarket items:

• Line-X bedliner
• Wheel-to-wheel running boards
• B&W turnover ball + Andersen Ultimate hitch base
• Other misc smaller items

With the 5.0 hitched and the whole rig 'loaded ready for travel' I've got an average remaining payload of 620# (average of Cat Scale weights from several different trips /loads, none below 590#).

I have upgraded the truck shock absorbers to Bilstein 5100's front and rear for a bit better than OE damping (IMO) but have no other suspension mods. The rig rides and handles like a dream.

Methinks you are in fine shape with your new Lariat, congratulations!

 

[rvnovice]

I have upgraded the truck shock absorbers to Bilstein 5100's front and rear for a bit better than OE damping (IMO) but have no other suspension mods. The rig rides and handles like a dream.

Did you get the Bilstein 5100 with zero lift? My truck seems to float a bit on some roads.

For a 2024 F150, the front are $77 more than the rear, unless I am missing something...

Bilstein B8 5100 (Ride Height Adjustable) Shock - 24-323680 Front - $188​

Bilstein B8 5100 Shock - 33-253190 Rear - $111​

 

[Centex]

Did you get the Bilstein 5100 with zero lift? My truck seems to float a bit on some roads.

The front shocks have grooves and a snap-ring for the installer to choose among several ride-height increments from stock (+0") to lifted (+2.5"). The height is not adjustable once installed (you can R&R the shocks to change it). Yes, I kept everything at stock (+0) height for my DIY installation.

FYI here's the bundle of four 5100's I purchased (link to the vendor I used), the included part numbers are those you listed. The bundle from Stage 3 Motorsports provided a discount relative to buying F&R pairs, prompt shipping (yeah, I see that they aren't in stock at this moment), and an excellent transaction experience back when I bought on 11/02/2022.

More FYI, a brief post on the F150Gen14 forum about my installation. I remain very happy with the outcome, both towing and daily driving, perhaps best described as being more 'composed' in all conditions.

 

[GinoandLinda]

Thanks for posting this Centex. I have been considering these and thanks to your post, I'll probably order them when they are back in stock. I wouldn't mind leveling my truck a bit for purely aesthetic reasons and if I get an improved ride, all the better.

 

[Centex]

I wouldn't mind leveling my truck a bit for purely aesthetic reasons ....

I'm not sure if it's a valid concern, but I didn't want to risk altering the truck's 'unladen stance' having some adverse effect on the aim of the many various cams and radars relating collision-avoidance systems, my automatic cruise control, or the stitched-together 360-degree cam view on my F150 (the latter which I use a lot when parking to accurately locate side and front parking-space lines). There's also the basic headlight aim to consider.

Again, I'm not sure if that's a valid concern, and even if it is that might be mitigated by having a dealer re-calibrate / adjust those components, but perhaps something you'll want to investigate and consider if your truck has such systems.

Every one of the many pickups I've owned has had some degree of 'forward rake' when unladen, it's just part of accommodating loads in the bed / on the bumper, and in the case of my Lariat the amount of that rake isn't out-of-the-norm in my experience so I'm OK with it. My rig settles nicely to very near-level with the 5.0 hitched.

YMMV, no worries!

 

[Jacks21]

Did you get the Bilstein 5100 with zero lift? My truck seems to float a bit on some roads.

For a 2024 F150, the front are $77 more than the rear, unless I am missing something...

Bilstein B8 5100 (Ride Height Adjustable) Shock - 24-323680 Front - $188​

Bilstein B8 5100 Shock - 33-253190 Rear - $111​

I like the 5100 but opted for the 6112 up front, just a bit heavier shock. Sa,w great ride though

 

[Jacks21]

Thanks for posting this Centex. I have been considering these and thanks to your post, I'll probably order them when they are back in stock. I wouldn't mind leveling my truck a bit for purely aesthetic reasons and if I get an improved ride, all the better.

Look at the 6112 too, they are a little more heavy duty with the same options and great ride

 

[Centex]

Look at the 6112 too, they are a little more heavy duty with the same options and great ride

Given I'm not going seriously off-road, ~$440 (5100) vs ~$1,100 (6112) made the choice easy for frugal me.

YMMV, no worries!

 

[Jacks21]

I’ve had 2 pairs of 5100 go out on a Tacoma so I went with 6112 on my half ton. And trust me I’m not frugal I’m a cheap f’er.
But yes I feel ya on the price

 

[iamunique127]

My 2013 Tundra was levelled with front spacers when I bought it and I liked the stance. When the shocks needed to be replaced I chose 5100s all around. I set the fronts at the highest setting to replicate the former levelled stance. We use our truck far more for non-towing driving so it suits us well most of the time. I do find the ride with the 5100s a little more harsh than with the stock Bilstein shocks but more "planted" somehow.

The back end of the truck squatted more than I liked with the 5.0TA attached so I added air bags to the back. Now it only takes a couple minutes to add air to the air bags with a bicycle pump to level the trailer. When not towing I reduce the air until the truck has just a bit of forward rake again. This is so easily done that I do it for touring/sightseeing comfort when we drop the trailer at a campground.

Being an older truck with less technology, sensors, etc. I don't have many of the concerns with a slight lift that others may have. The headlights can be manually aimed with a knob on the dash and I don't use the sonar for parking so it is permanently turned off. Works for me.

FYI there were many places to purchase 5100s when I was looking. Some were sold out but I found mine at an off-road specialty shop. Prices were comparable at most places.