Flipped escape

[7Gentex]

The vid should shed some light on what happened / causation........................

I have had a flat on a tandem axle trailer, on a straight road, 65 MPH, dry weather. Handled fine - slow and smooth response / inputs needed - but in the middle of a downhill curve at speed would be a different animal........

 

[Rossue2]

The data is in past threads over the last ten years. Then only trailers reported with rollover due to sway on this alForum have all been 19's....and I personally know someone who had a 19 rollover who did not mention it here.

It is a fact that the 19 has the lightest tongue weight of any Escape trailer with a large queen bed in the back, fridge near the back and a bathroom in the middle.

 

[Happycamper me]

The vid should shed some light on what happened / causation........................

I have had a flat on a tandem axle trailer, on a straight road, 65 MPH, dry weather. Handled fine - slow and smooth response / inputs needed - but in the middle of a downhill curve at speed would be a different animal........

Video shows the first sway was to the drivers side, side with the flat. Pretty much on straight hy, gentle curve about 1/2 km back and I keep the speed in and about 90 km/hr. Am going to get a tongue wt scale before adding wt in the storage box. Thanks everyone for advice. We want to be safe on our next trip

 

[Mike G]

My thought is, if the 2020 19' had batteries under the dinette instead of out front, and had 100+ lb of weight hanging off the rear receiver, there's a decent possibility that the tongue weight was less than 10% of total trailer weight. Insufficient tongue weight is the most common contributor to dangerous sway.

 

[Happycamper me]

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2020 E19s have batteries in the storage box out front. The 2024 has them under the bench seat of front dinette.

 

[Perry Butler]

Over the decades of hauling I've had plenty of blowouts. Then I got a 2015 F-150 with a built-in tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS). I'm always warned by the TPMS when my tire gets below 28 psi on the truck. The past couple of campers also had/have TPMS. In nearly 10 years with TPMS on the truck I've had no blow-outs, but have been warned a couple of times with the truck. One time the TPMS was showing the tire losing about 1 psi per mile. We limped into town and a large screw was removed.

Then there was this warning by the trucks TPMS last September. Seems I picked up a nice allen wrench. Tires Plus refused to repair this tire.

On our past couple of campers we've had TPMS and we've had a couple of warnings there too, but both times the leak was slow enough I pumped air in once to get to town to have the tire fixed.

It sounds like there was a flat tire on the OP's Escape. Was it inspected for a blowout? Did the OP have TPMS on their trailer?

We just replace our old TPMS with a newer model. You don't have to break the bank for a TPMS. I wouldn't travel without TPMS anymore.

Food for thought,

Perry

 

[Perry Butler]

Moderators please remove this post, since I can't.

Thanks,

Perry

 

[GinoandLinda]

Glad everyone made it out of that accident okay. Could have been much worse. Happy to hear it didn’t scare you away from towing. Be safe.

 

[Ron in BC]

One would think that the ETI staff (and contract{?} engineering services) would be all over a design safety error . . . . .

I for one am struggling between a 17B or 19 . . . so safety data facts would be helpful.

Considering the number of miles, conditions and tow vehicles that I towed an E19 with I'd have a hard time saying that there's a design safety error.

Ron

 

[MarkinVan]

Another Jeep GC but I wonder if I should have bought a truck. Think we will load the front of the trailer with extra weight somehow. Any ideas?

I will be certain to reconfirm the tongue weight which I believe should be or exceed at least 300 pounds... (?)
I will have to retest that with both a full and empty water tank and with one and two full propane tanks. the Black & Gray tank are in front of the axels so will only add to the tongue weight I think.

 

[sherminator]

I had a passenger rear tire on my 21NE shred on the freeway at 60mph. Never felt a thing. My niece was following me and texted that the tire blew otherwise I would have kept on driving. Plenty of tongue weight as I have dual 6V lead acid batteries in the front box plus I have a rear dinette with the front dinette made into a bed with storage underneath.

 

[brroberts]

Tongue weight should be 10-15% of your total trailer loaded weight. For my E19 that is 470-705lbs. If your fully loaded E19 is really 3000lbs, 300lbs tongue weight would be the minimum. Loads on the rear, like bikes, can influence that significantly. I’d be surprised if your E19, loaded for travel, didn’t weigh significantly more than 3000lbs. I’d suggest you get it weighed. We typically travel with a full fresh tank and empty black and grey. Our tongue weight is between 520-560lbs depending on the trip. Our 19 still carries the older 5000lbs weight rating.

 

[MarkinVan]

That makes sense. The Spec is 300 for empty.