Frameless Window

[Stu-ESC]

I remember seeing a post on either the forum or a FB page discussing the placement of an edge guard on the front edge of frameless windows. I have searched, probably with the wrong wording, to no avail. Can somebody point me in the right direction?

 

[mlowther]

On April 20, in the FB page there was post by Chris Trone, and someone in the comments posted a reference to this guard (from CAD Amazonian site):

https://www.amazon.ca/Guards-Winunite-Universal-Protector-Automotive/dp/B094F8596B/ref=sr_1_1

They mentioned that it should be available on the US site as well.

To find the FB post, I just searched "Window" and looked for a recent post of a frameless window blowout - voila! I hope this is what you were looking for!

 

[Stu-ESC]

On April 20, in the FB page there was post by Chris Trone, and someone in the comments posted a reference to this guard (from CAD Amazonian site):

https://www.amazon.ca/Guards-Winunite-Universal-Protector-Automotive/dp/B094F8596B/ref=sr_1_1

They mentioned that it should be available on the US site as well.

To find the FB post, I just searched "Window" and looked for a recent post of a frameless window blowout - voila! I hope this is what you were looking for!

That’s it. Thanks

 

[Shudbesailing]

That’s it. Thanks

Be careful to read user reviews about scratching and adhesion levels.

 

[Jim Bennett]

What is the purpose of this edging? It kinda says protection, but with over 50k km on our Escape with the awning windows there has never been an issue. I don't really care for the look either, but that is just me.

 

[Donna D.]

What is the purpose of this edging? It kinda says protection, but with over 50k km on our Escape with the awning windows there has never been an issue. I don't really care for the look either, but that is just me.

When the stone strikes the edge of the window, the window can shatter. The edge protection is to prevent that.

 

[Jim Bennett]

When the stone strikes the edge of the window, the window can shatter. The edge protection is to prevent that.

I guess......

It does seem like a very unlikely thing to happen. I guess if you travel fast on gravel roads.

I have heard of failures but don't remember one where they know a rock caused it.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

 

[Donna D.]

I guess......

It does seem like a very unlikely thing to happen. I guess if you travel fast on gravel roads.

I have heard of failures but don't remember one where they know a rock caused it.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

Guess I've read more than you Jim, I've read about three broken windows. And they all occurred on paved roads. The owners didn't know it happened until they stopped for fuel or the night. THEN had to get out the cardboard, plastic bag and duct tape. It could be plenty bad if it happens in the rain.

 

[Radar1]

I guess......

It does seem like a very unlikely thing to happen. I guess if you travel fast on gravel roads.

I have heard of failures but don't remember one where they know a rock caused it.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

Yes, probably unlikely.
However, I got lucky because I got a stone chip on my last trip. I had procrastinated installing the edging that I already purchased, and was lucky the window didn't shatter.
Now I have the edging. It also comes in black which would probably blend in better, but I used the remaining edging to match my truck color.

Rock chip in bathroom window

Grey door edge guard installed. Presses right on.

 

[Ron in BC]

I've always disliked the unfinished look of frameless windows but I'm stuck with the one in my door because that's the only type that they use. Contemplated making an aluminum frame but it's a lot of work. I've done it before for boat windows. If I can get that edging in black I think that I'd like the look better.

Ron

 

[Donna D.]

I've always disliked the unfinished look of frameless windows but I'm stuck with the one in my door because that's the only type that they use. Contemplated making an aluminum frame but it's a lot of work. I've done it before for boat windows. If I can get that edging in black I think that I'd like the look better.

Ron

Radar1 used what he had. It does come in black.

 

[Jim Bennett]

Yes, probably unlikely.
However, I got lucky because I got a stone chip on my last trip.

Definite proof. Good to see it is just a chip. Was it a gravel road you were on when it happened?

 

[Jim Bennett]

Guess I've read more than you Jim, I've read about three broken windows. And they all occurred on paved roads. The owners didn't know it happened until they stopped for fuel or the night. THEN had to get out the cardboard, plastic bag and duct tape. It could be plenty bad if it happens in the rain.

I have heard of a few broken windows, but not from stones until Radar1's post. My bathroom window is one that delaminated but that was back when the bath windows had issues.

Life has kept me quite busy lately so keeping up on things here and on Facebook just doesn't fully happen. Getting ready to head out for a couple weeks tomorrow, so not doing much right now except trailer readiness stuff. Polishing, sanitizing, fixing, new smoke detector, and so on. Getting ready to relax.

 

[Perry Butler]

I guess......

It does seem like a very unlikely thing to happen. I guess if you travel fast on gravel roads.

I have heard of failures but don't remember one where they know a rock caused it.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

My father smoked cigarettes, cigars, and pipes all his life and never died of cancer. That's actually true, but he did die of small brain strokes that may or may not have happened because he was a smoker. I gave up smoking over 40 years ago?

When not camping our camper resides in a seasonal site in Lanesboro. We are the last seasonal site on our end and have 5 daily rentals to our east. A daily rental came in one day with his front, side awning window partially broken, probably from a rock.

Knowing what I now know I would wrap the two front, side windows to help prevent stone damage.

Stone damage odds are fairly low, but they still exist. In the case of cigarettes we know the odds, but there are no reliable odds on this happening with awning windows. Considering how fragile awning windows are I'd wrap my two front/side windows.

Food for thought,

Perry

 

[Radar1]

Definite proof. Good to see it is just a chip. Was it a gravel road you were on when it happened?

I don't recall any gravel roads on the trip, but some recent paving that may have had some loose chips.

 

[Paul_H]

I found yet another reason why the frameless window could shatter easily…
While de-winterising my 2017 5.0TA (it was stored over winter indoors), I opened all of the windows to check and clean the seals, one of the loft windows came apart while opening, the track that holds the opening arms to the glass just came off! On closer inspection I can see that the paint was not well adhered to the metal, the double sided adhesive strip that holds the track to the glass was still in place on the glass, including the paint that should be part of the metal track. If this had happened while we were on the road, the window would have just flapped around and most likely shattered itself. I can't imagine this is the first time this has happened.
I've temporarily fixed the track back on with 3M VHB tape and it does feel secure now, but I will be looking to replace the loft windows in the future (2 of them have clouded over inside), I know Lippert want a ridiculous price for shipping new units to BC, so I hope to discuss this with Escape at the Osoyoos weekend, maybe acrylic, we'll see.

 

[John in Santa Cruz]

I only know my old school 2014 sliding double pane tinted windows. they are, um, 11 years old now, and showing no signs of not lasting another 11, except the front streetside window next to the front bed is quite hazy inside the double glass on half of it. The blinds are always closed on that one, so I don't really care.

I'd like to see good photos of the outside and inside of the new style windows, just because I'm curious. I should take some current detail pixs of my trailers windows.