Portable Battery-to-Battery Charger

Thane-ESC

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I made a portable battery-to-battery charger that I could use to charge the trailer battery when installed in the trailer (normal configuration) or when the trailer battery was carried in the back of my tow vehicle (TV) while the trailer was left in the campground (sightseeing configuration).
I use a Victron Orion-TR Smart 12/12-18 Isolated DC/DC Charger because I have only one lead-acid battery, and the 18 Amp charger was a good match. I used Anderson Connectors and 6 AWG marine wiring.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4LRJYV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Marine-Duple...+Cable,+30ft+6+AWG&qid=1728858092&sr=8-4&th=1

When we go camping, we tend to go sightseeing and shoplifting rather than staying at camp. I figured as long as I was driving around without the trailer, I may as well recharge the trailer battery in the back of my TV, a Toyota Seqouia SUV. There is plenty of space and ventilation in the back of the TV.

When the trailer battery is carried in the back of my TV, I use a Ryobi 18V cordless power tool battery to keep the trailer refrigerator running. We always bring a Ryobi cordless drill, flashlight, lanterns, power supply and Ryobi battery charger when camping so no additional battery needs to be carried. The Ryobi battery powers only the refrigerator and has plenty of capacity and can run for hours with the refrigerator operating on propane

The first picture shows what I call the powerpack. It is mounted on nested slotted L-Angles that were bolted together to make a C-Channel. The Anderson Connectors fit snugly in the C-Channel. There is a crossbeam on top that serves as a handle. The base is plywood with oversized holes and washers for two studs in the floor of the trailer that hold everything securely to the trailer floor.

The second picture shows the back of the powerpack including a mounting L-Angle that holds the vertical arms to the base and a “battery box link plate” that connects the powerpack to a battery box that holds the trailer battery when it is in the back of my TV. Connecting the powerpack and battery box (with the heavy battery inside) together, provides a solid, difficult-to-tip, charging assembly in the back of my TV.

The third picture shows the powerpack next to the empty battery box. The battery box is also used to hold the powerpack when it is used in the trailer. The battery box has a 3.5 inch hole in the side to allow air from a cabinet mounted cooling fan to flow freely over the powerpack.

The fourth picture shows the powerpack next to the battery box with the lid installed. The lid covers the battery box link plate and firmly connects the powerpack and battery box together. The entire assembly is held in place with a stout bungee cord that runs along the top of long axis of the assembly and is hooked to pre-existing tie downs. The battery charger is mounted low enough on the powerpack, that the bungee cord does not touch it and thus does not put a load on it. The bungeed assembly is surprisingly stable, and though not crash rated, is stable enough for my use. The lid has a cutout to allow better access for the charging cable.

The fifth picture below shows the passenger side, rear dinette, storage area. There are power cables from the TV and to the trailer battery and the cabinet mounted cooling fan for the powerpack (an 80mm 12V fan). I added two studs to the floor to hold the battery box and powerpack. The studs use the same nuts as the trailer battery to cut down on fastener types I need to carry. The top of the studs are concave a little so I filled the concave with glow-in-the-dark paint to make it easier to align the mating holes with the studs; I was looking for white paint, not sure why I had glow-in-the-dark paint… Here is the link for the remote control switch I used. The leads are short, but I like having two remotes, one for the TV and one for the trailer.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093WM5SQL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The sixth picture shows the battery box, powerpack and assorted cables installed in the trailer. I ran the power cable from the powerpack to the trailer tongue through the bilge bulge on the passenger side. From under the refrigerator, just aft of the main door, I ran a steel nut with a string into the bilge (with the help of a piece of wire) and used a strong magnet from an old computer hard drive to pull the nut to a hole I drilled close to the front of the trailer. The magnet picked up an amazing amount of debris, mainly staples, from the bilge. I used the magnet to sweep the bilge of all the steel debris before running the wire.

I used Trailer Vision Anderson protective covers and plugs on the TV bumper and trailer tongue to provide a place to connect a 5 feet long wire harness to provide power to the trailer. Here are the links. The Anderson plug that came with the cover had to be modified to fit the other Anderson plugs I was using.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZX27CPZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KT99RFM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

The seventh picture shows the power cord in black and another cord that I made with left over wire covered in orange shrink wrap (for visibility). The orange harness is an extension cord so I could park my TV close (within 10 feet) to the trailer plug and top off the trailer battery by idling the TV.

The eighth picture shows the Ryobi battery power converter that I use to power the refrigerator when the trailer battery is in my TV. I use a male cigarette to SAE plug cable going into a SAE plug installed on the forward edge of the same cabinet that stores the powerpack and stuff. I can use the SAE plug to provide power to items like inverters if desired.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089JY71XG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089JY71XG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I installed a diode upstream of the SAE plug so the Ryobi battery provides power to only the refrigerator. The Ryobi battery faults to an overload condition if this diode is not used.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HRO4X8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

To provide power to the powerpack when I am using it in my TV, I ran a short cable with Anderson connectors on both ends from the TV rear bumper area, up through an existing rubber grommet, and into the factory built-in storage box in the back of my TV. The bumper end of the cable is tucked into the hitch frame when not used, and when needed, it is un-tucked and plugged into the Anderson connector on the rear bumper. I have two short pigtail cables with an Anderson connector on one end and different connectors on the other end. One cable has round connectors for the trailer battery posts, the other cable has a female 12V cigarette plug for whatever may need a bit of oompf for power, like an inverter.

The TV and trailer wire harnesses are protected with a fuse block shown on this link. Because the fuse block sits high on the battery, I double checked clearance with the hood closed using measurements and then with a piece of crushable foam to ensure no contact. I also cut the protruding stud a bit to increase clearance and zip-tied the dust cover in place.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09NP8431D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Anyhow, it all works well for me and does what I need it to do. I don’t have a solar system so being able to charge the trailer at a pretty high amperage of 18 amps (using the Victron charger) versus the 7-plug cable amperage (which acts like a trickle charger) is beneficial.
 

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Amazing, IMO, the variety of inventions / innovations posted on this forum mothered by individual necessity / convenience.

Yours looks nifty. :thumb:

Thanks for sharing with great detail. :)
 
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An interesting post, Thane, thanks for the explanation.

As I understand it, the charger (powerpack) generally stays in the tow vehicle wired to the vehicle's electrical system. The trailer battery is moved from the trailer to the TV and connected to the powerpack to be charged while the TV is running on day trips away from the campsite. Upon return the charged battery is moved back to the trailer. A small ryobi tool battery runs the refrigerator when the trailer battery is being charged.

Where I get a bit lost is when you show the powerpack installed in the trailer. Is this for when you are on shore power? Did you disconnect the stock trailer charger?

Isn't it a major inconvenience to lug the battery back and forth from inside the trailer to the TV and back? Do you do most of your charging with the TV idling at the campsite and the powerpack jumped to the trailer battery?

I'm thinking that a Jackery type power center (battery/charger/inverter all in one) would be an alternative way to do the same strategy you are using to bring power to the trailer.
 
Viajante, thanks for the response and questions.

The charger is normally in the trailer and I would use it to charge the battery when towing if the battery needs a charge, for example going to another campsite. It also allows me to use the DC function of the refrigerator and still have a charged battery upon arrival. If the battery is fully charged when towing, I just use the 7-pin power.

I can also use the TV and the charger in the trailer to top off the battery at the campsite if there is nobody around who would be bothered. Even 15 minutes of charging makes a worthwhile difference in the charge and is quieter than using a generator. I wouldn’t use the TV to charge the trailer battery if it would bother anyone.

I forgot to mention that when I am towing and using the charger in the trailer, I pull the TV fuse on the 7-pin hot wire so that only the charger is providing power. I think this gives a better reading of the battery charge state and reduces the motor alternator load a little.

When I put the charger and battery in the TV, I can normally charge quite a bit as we tend to drive around a lot. I don’t always take the charger and battery with us, it depends on the circumstances.

My trailer battery is on the rear bumper so it is easy to get to. I take it out of the built-in battery box and put it into the charger battery box so I stay clean and can use two hands to carry it. The TV is always nearby and I don’t need to take the battery for a drive everyday.

I thought about a Jackery type system with solar cells, thanks for pointing that out. It does have advantages. I decided against it because it would cause me worry that it would disappear while we were out and about, the dog chain may get caught up in the solar cells, and it would also take up more space in the TV. I think the battery base unit weighs about the same as my battery.

A battery only Jackery is a good option. It is cheaper than the solar option and can be lighter, but I would still need to transport it so I decided against that. I think a solar or battery only Jackery system is a fine thing to have and an elegant solution; it is easy to see why they are so popular.

Primarily though, I am cheap and like having a project. Making the charger portable didn’t cost much because the frame work was scrap material and the plugs and such was less than $80 or so. Adding the charger to the trailer was worth the money for me, the 7-pin hot wire didn’t do much. The portable aspect gave me something to do and will come in handy every once in a while. It takes 15 minutes or so to set up and tear down the portable setup in the TV, so I wouldn’t do it everyday; it’s just a nice option and was fun to make.
 
Thane, your explanations make sense, especially about the battery being accessible on the rear bumper. And, leaving the powerpack in the trailer to charge the battery while towing.

Two more comments on your original post: Good to learn about the Riyobi adapter to power the fridge, and using the pontoon as a conduit for running wires from front to back. Clever.
 
using the pontoon as a conduit for running wires from front to back. Clever.

Yes, and I don't recall anyone doing that previously.

Makes my glad that my truck has a built-in 110V supply and I can do charging while driving by plugging a 20amp charger into it. Not used much by the trailer batteries but handy for the trolling and kayak motor batteries.

Ron
 

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