Towing a 5.0 w a half ton

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We've been towing our 5.0 with a "beast" (2500 Dodge w diesel) for years. We're considering a newer truck with 6'+ bed. We like the Rams. Are there any issues,( brakes or suspension )related to setting up the fifth wheel in a half ton truck? Will a half ton. Handle it well?
 
We've been towing our 5.0 with a "beast" (2500 Dodge w diesel) for years. We're considering a newer truck with 6'+ bed. We like the Rams. Are there any issues,( brakes or suspension )related to setting up the fifth wheel in a half ton truck? Will a half ton. Handle it well?
Oh boy, I'm betting 95% of the trucks on this forum pulling 5.0 trailers are half-tons and while there are a few Rams, Nissans and Toyotas, etc. the vast majority are Ford F-150s :thumb:
 
Hi Donna
Thanks, yes we expected most would be half ton. But why are they mostly f 150's?
Also is the 6'+ bed reqd? Or are you can to nose safe with a 5'+ bed?
 
Hi Donna
Thanks, yes we expected most would be half ton. But why are they mostly f 150's?
Also is the 6'+ bed reqd? Or are you can to nose safe with a 5'+ bed?

We tow with a 2016 F150 6' bed, seems ideal for us. We have the 3.5l twin turbo. The power figures very similar to the 5.0 engine or a little better now. The twin turbo has great torque numbers at lower RPM ideal for towing. We live at altitude so many of our trips are to 12,000' or higher. We can pull the entire west side of Vail pass and the "IKE" tunnel with cruise control set at 60 MPH, zero issues.
Many varied opinions on towing a 5.0, these are mine.
 
Absolutely no problem towing with a properly equipped 1/2-ton truck, Rams among them if that's your preference for whatever reasons.

IMO payload rating is what you'll want to be attentive to, just making sure that the specific truck optioned the way you want has adequate capacity for your load.

Having long experience with your current rig puts you in a great position to ensure you get a suitable 1/2-ton truck for the actual payload you normally carry when camping with your 5.0.

You can
  • load your 2500 and trailer with everything you normally take on your trips including gear, people, and pets. Head to a CAT scale to get your truck's axle weights (on a CAT scale that's steer axle + drive axle; ignore the trailer axle weight for this purpose).
  • then take the truck alone without the gear, people, and pets you load in the truck for camping trips, and get that weight
  • top-up your fuel tank for both weights for maximum comparative accuracy
The difference between the two truck weights is your actual real-world 'payload' when using your trailer the way you travel, and that is what you want to accommodate with whatever new truck you get. (my F150 has a payload rating of 1848# which is quite adequate for my real-world travel loading)

IMO / IME the 5500# GTWR (at most, and almost certainly well-under that in your actuality) isn't a concern with a 1/2-ton truck meeting your payload requirements, their brakes, suspension, etc are quite sufficient for relaxed and safe towing of our 5.0 trailers. You will of course want to choose an engine with adequate power, and plenty are available to meet that need.
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I think Donna may be a bit high on her 'F150-bias' estimate, but yeah, they do seem very popular. Perhaps that's just reflective of Ford's overall market share, perhaps that's a function of some of Ford's particular 'towing-friendly' features. If I were you I'd look at the entire market with an open mind, and if RAM still pushes the buttons you prefer, go Ram! (I happen to have an F150 as much as anything because I'm a long-time ford-guy)
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Insofar as 5.5 ft vs 6.5 ft boxes .... IME a 6.5 ft box will assuredly allow you to back into a 90° jackknife without cab conflict. A 5.5 ft box may allow that or will allow you to get very close to that crazy severe bend (depends on the exact hitch type and placement in the 5.5 ft box).

You've been towing a 5.0 for a long time, how often have you really needed to 'bend your rig' that severely?

IMO either box is very suitable for comfortably towing a 5.0. IMO the choice should be based on whether or not you need the space for 'stuff' you carry in the box, and the overall length (a function of cab-style and box length) of the truck you prefer to drive, park, and garage. (I happen to have a 6.5 ft box because of other non-towing needs and the overall length with a an 'extended' / not 'crew' -cab works for me)

All just for your consideration, happy shopping and happy trailering! :)
 
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Payload might be a concern, depending on the specific half ton model/trim.

I understand that some highly-optioned trucks can have payload capacities that drop down to the 1000lb range. The pin weight of an empty 5.0 is 650lbs....which wouldn't leave much capacity left for the driver/passenger....let alone anything else carried the the cab/trailer.

Based on mid-level trim half ton models I've recently researched, it's more typical to find payload capacities in the 1600-1800lb range, which should be more-than-adequate for a 5.0.
 
check the spare tire

One more thought .... unlike 3/4-ton+ trucks, some half-ton trucks come with a 'temporary use' spare tire/wheel even though they almost all have space to stow a full-time spare tire/wheel matching the road-tires.

You might want to be attentive to that and if the truck you like otherwise has a 'temporary-use' spare, ask about upgrading that to a 'real' spare. ;)

(My F150 came standard with a full-time spare tire exactly matching the tires on the four corners, albeit on a plain steel wheel instead of a matching aluminum wheel. Good enough for me!)
(some F150s come with temporary-use spare tires!)
 
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Oh boy, I'm betting 95% of the trucks on this forum pulling 5.0 trailers are half-tons and while there are a few Rams, Nissans and Toyotas, etc. the vast majority are Ford F-150s :thumb:


I'd agree, with what I see at the Pink Elephant Rally I've gone too. There was even a Tacoma pulling a 5.0 there. Which was eye opening, as I pull a E19 with a Taco.
 
Hi Donna
Thanks, yes we expected most would be half ton. But why are they mostly f 150's?
Also is the 6'+ bed reqd? Or are you can to nose safe with a 5'+ bed?

Ford makes a solid truck and always has. Their Twin Turbo Charged 3.5 L V6 is a yanker and like a diesel it has great low rpm twist. Normally Aspirated V8 power is made at higher rpm levels.

My friend, long time V8 guy, went to the Ram (5.7 & 6.2), Toyota (5.7?- Pre Turbo V6), Chevy (5.3 & 6.2) and Ford (3.5 & 5.0) dealers in St. Louis and tried all their motor combinations pulling his 24 foot stick built camper. Result, he bought a Ford's 3.5 L Twin Turbo Charged V6 because of the low RPM twist.
 
I can't say enough good things about the F150 and I'm not even a Ford guy; I was a devoted Nissan driver. We have a '22 F150 Super Crew XLT, 6.5ft bed, 3.5 Ecoboost, 4X4, tow package. Wonderfully comfortable and plenty of power to pull a 5.0. Acceleration at will no matter the grade.

FWIW, I frequently drive a Ram 1500 to visit some remote sites at work. Simply no comparison IMHO.
 
I know back in early 2022 when I was speccing out my ideal towing truck for our 5.0, the Ram was way more expensive like for like with an equivalent f150. That may have changed now of course.

I spent a lot of time maximizing my custom build for payload (1900lbs) and towing capacity 10,000lbs. I also have the 6.5ft bed.

As Alan (Centrex) has pointed out make sure you get a full size spare. I had to use mine last week when towing after getting a slow puncture.

I found the F150 has quite a few tow friendly features. You can set up trailer dimensions and the NAV system takes them into account when routing. It has a tow/haul mode that changes the graring shift points and provides engine breaking. The 360 Cam system helps with backing up . And Ford also offer a mod (new wiring harness) that let you integrate the trailer tpms and Ford trailer back up camera into F150 dashboard/media displays. Both myself and Alan have done this mod. Saves having 2 extra displays on your dash!

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I’m very happy with my 2022 F150 for towing.
 
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Thanks for responding, can you tell me what transmission and differential you have? Have you had any issues?
For us we got 3.5 Ecoboost, 10speed tranny, 3.55 diff., and my favorite, 36gallon tank
Same here

OP, just FYI ....

All 2021+ F150s have the same 10-speed automatic transmission. Yes, one can search forums and find complaints, but overall it seems to be a robust performer with all drivetrains (I've had zero issues with mine)

Ford tends to link rear-axle ratio to the engine / drivetrain (4x2 or 4x4) selected. IMO / IME the 'default' ration for the engine / drivetrain works just fine. The 10-speed tranny and the generous torque-band of most Ford engines, especially the EcoBoosts, makes rear ratio less of a critical concern than 'in the old days'.

Note too there is only 1 "Tow/Haul" package for 2024 model year, it's not available with the 2.7L EcoBoost engine.

FYI, here's what's available in the way of ratios currently and this is basically unchanged since 2021
 

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I have the 2.7 Twin turbo Eco Boost with payload package. I believe this isn't an option any more. Ford wants you to tow with the v3.5L Eco Boost.
 
I can't say enough good things about the F150 and I'm not even a Ford guy; I was a devoted Nissan driver. We have a '22 F150 Super Crew XLT, 6.5ft bed, 3.5 Ecoboost, 4X4, tow package. Wonderfully comfortable and plenty of power to pull a 5.0. Acceleration at will no matter the grade.

FWIW, I frequently drive a Ram 1500 to visit some remote sites at work. Simply no comparison IMHO.

Agreed. My F150 is the most comfortable quiet vehicle I've ever had. The twin turbo's make short work of any towing requirements.
 
We've been towing our 5.0 with a "beast" (2500 Dodge w diesel) for years. We're considering a newer truck with 6'+ bed. We like the Rams. Are there any issues,( brakes or suspension )related to setting up the fifth wheel in a half ton truck? Will a half ton. Handle it well?

I had RAM 2500s with the Cummins for a couple of decades. Pulled stock trailers, horse trailer and long gooseneck flatbeds. When I reached a point where "I thought" my towing days were over I switched to a 2015 RAM 1500 with the Ecodiesel. It had the short shortbed and did a great job and I got very good mileage while towing a 5.0. . The only reason I switched was that Ecodiesel engine. That engine has a history of connecting rod sleeve bearing issues and I didn't want to be 2000 miles from home in the middle of nowhere with a locked up engine. I think the RAM V8 would be a good choice. I would add the AirLift bag to the rear springs. That made a big difference in the ride. I now have a 2022 GMC Sierra 1500 with the 3.0 Duramax. Also a short shortbed. Ride is not as good as the RAM but fuel mileage is even better. No negative issues towing.
 
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We've been towing our 5.0 with a "beast" (2500 Dodge w diesel) for years. We're considering a newer truck with 6'+ bed. We like the Rams. Are there any issues,( brakes or suspension )related to setting up the fifth wheel in a half ton truck? Will a half ton. Handle it well?

Good hearing from you sent a PM. Headed up to Modoc tomorrow for a week.:thumb:
 
Oh boy, I'm betting 95% of the trucks on this forum pulling 5.0 trailers are half-tons and while there are a few Rams, Nissans and Toyotas, etc. the vast majority are Ford F-150s :thumb:
We tow our 5 with an F-150 powerboost (which offers us 110 electricity everywhere) and have just crossed the Rockies at 70 mph +. We have the 5.5 bed. No problems.
 

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