junkyburrittos
New Member
I am a newbie here, at the beginning stages of saving and dreaming of Escape ownership. As going pre-owned will be more achievable from a budget perspective, I'm trying to prepare my knowledge for the moment I have money in hand and the right opportunity pops up.
Is there one spot where there is an entire history of recalls that I can save and cross-reference to whatever model comes up? Or would I call Escape and ask them on a case by case basis? Would Escape have record by VIN of whether any recalls have been serviced?
I'm looking ideally for a 21C with a 21NE or a 19 being fine at the right price point as well. I understand that 2017 marked the move from Gen 1 to Gen 2 on the 19... was there a Gen 1 to Gen 2 change for the 21 at that time as well? I know the door change is a big giveaway to the generation, and I believe the frameless windows became available with Gen 2, but what other changes were made with the move to Gen 2? In general (not specific to Escape), it's always said to avoid the first year of a new model. Has anyone had any problems with the 2017's as a redesign year?
I've heard someone divide Escape into the pre-Karl era, Karl era, and post-Karl era. It appears somewhere in there the company was sold, and we also had covid and potentially supply chain issues in the mix as well. It appears that Escape is one of the few companies that has kept its standards consistent through challenges. Nevertheless, are there model years that are perhaps strong or weaker choices based upon all these factors?
Finally, how old is too old? Stick and tin trailers have a limited shelf life to be sure, but what kind of significant costs could I be incurring if I go with an early model? I imagine appliances and plumbing and such could break down before the fiberglass does. If the fiberglass was not properly cared for, it could be yellowed which is less than ideal, but then is it also structurally more compromised or fragile? I'm also wondering out loud if I go really old, how difficult it would be to switch out old white appliances, put in new flooring, or paint cabinetry, to have it not look so dated.
In short, I'm looking for tips to be ready to make quick budget-minded decisions that won't cause me anguish and expense down the road. If there is anything else I'm not considering, I appreciate additional advice as well. Thank you for your assistance!
Is there one spot where there is an entire history of recalls that I can save and cross-reference to whatever model comes up? Or would I call Escape and ask them on a case by case basis? Would Escape have record by VIN of whether any recalls have been serviced?
I'm looking ideally for a 21C with a 21NE or a 19 being fine at the right price point as well. I understand that 2017 marked the move from Gen 1 to Gen 2 on the 19... was there a Gen 1 to Gen 2 change for the 21 at that time as well? I know the door change is a big giveaway to the generation, and I believe the frameless windows became available with Gen 2, but what other changes were made with the move to Gen 2? In general (not specific to Escape), it's always said to avoid the first year of a new model. Has anyone had any problems with the 2017's as a redesign year?
I've heard someone divide Escape into the pre-Karl era, Karl era, and post-Karl era. It appears somewhere in there the company was sold, and we also had covid and potentially supply chain issues in the mix as well. It appears that Escape is one of the few companies that has kept its standards consistent through challenges. Nevertheless, are there model years that are perhaps strong or weaker choices based upon all these factors?
Finally, how old is too old? Stick and tin trailers have a limited shelf life to be sure, but what kind of significant costs could I be incurring if I go with an early model? I imagine appliances and plumbing and such could break down before the fiberglass does. If the fiberglass was not properly cared for, it could be yellowed which is less than ideal, but then is it also structurally more compromised or fragile? I'm also wondering out loud if I go really old, how difficult it would be to switch out old white appliances, put in new flooring, or paint cabinetry, to have it not look so dated.
In short, I'm looking for tips to be ready to make quick budget-minded decisions that won't cause me anguish and expense down the road. If there is anything else I'm not considering, I appreciate additional advice as well. Thank you for your assistance!
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