What did you do for your Escape today.....

[Ron in BC]

I told my wife that if I ever designed another house it'd be a large A frame. The bottom would be all shop and garage and we'd live on the upper second level. She wasn't amused.

Ron

 

[NEWYORKHILLBILLY]

A 24 by 32 will hold two Escape 21s, some lawn equipment -and a 16 foot boat across the back.

A 24 by 28 holds two cars, 4 sleds, 4 bicycles, a CD Jukebox box and lots of cherished possessions.

A 22 by 22 holds a 40 HP tractor/loader, a couple outboard engines, some power equipment, a Z-turn mower and more junk and lumber than a 77 year old hoarder will ever use.
Just for scale.
Iowa Dave

what's the door size on the 24 by 32 with the two Escape 21s

 

[HABBERDABBER]

The more space you have, the more stuff you acquire. STUFF!
I've got a ton or 2 of stuff, and have to move 3 things of stuff to get to the one I want.
And so it goes.
Less is more, so some say. And everytime you get something, you give something up, also as some say.

See more about STUFF:

 

[iamunique127]

The more space you have, the more stuff you acquire. STUFF!
I've got a ton or 2 of stuff, and have to move 3 things of stuff to get to the one I want.
And so it goes.
Less is more, so some say. And everytime you get something, you give something up, also as some say.

We are contemplating moving so are looking at downsizing. Ha.

I just went through the whole garage and disposed of a small box of stuff. How the heck can I get rid of any of the stuff I use to maintain a house and yard? (we are not ready for a condo) And what about if I need some of the wood for future projects. I might still finish building that motorcycle I started in 2018 so I gotta keep the parts. Etc.

I'm thinking we need some place bigger.

 

[GinoandLinda]

The more space you have, the more stuff you acquire. STUFF!

Probably the most profound and wisest words in this entire thread. We adopted a minimalist lifestyle 15 years ago and never looked back. Keep what you use, get rid of what you don't. You're kids and nobody else wants your stuff. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[brroberts]

How big would a garage have to be so it wouldn’t be crammed full of things?

I have no idea. My house is 900 sq ft, but I have 3900 sq ft of shop, barn, garage. It’s full. Trailers, boats, tools, cars, bikes, trikes, exercise equipment, tractor, craft stuff, astronomy stuff, audio stuff, construction materials. I have a feeling if it was bigger, it would still be full.

 

[Viajante]

Yes Brroberts, I also think it is an unanswerable question. Same as, “How high would the speed limit have to be so drivers didn’t feel compelled to drive 5 over?”. Or, “What’s the difference between a boatyard and a junkyard?”,

 

[HABBERDABBER]

It's possible to lighten the STUFF load and downsize, but there's a downside. I sold off some tools and now need to borrow them from friends. That works well enough. With multiple garage sales over a couple of years, many priceless, useless, didn't know I even had items were carried off by someone else. Wood stoves, table saws, drill presses, etc., all moved by the buyers. What I don't have now, I have other access to those tools.
We moved into an over 55 development. Works well for us. 2 Bedroom, single story, no basement ranch house on a pond. with a smaller garage and no stairs. I call it the "geezer ghetto", aka wrinkle ranch. My garage is packed to the gills, but 2 cars still fit in it.

In Summer, I'll be driving in a suburban neighborhood and see the 2 car garage doors opened...with the garage packed and filled with refrigerators, couches, furniture and boxes. No room for a vehicle.

ENUFF on STUFF!

Happy Halloween

 

[Iowa Dave]

what's the door size on the 24 by 32 with the two Escape 21s

12 foot sidewalls , door is 10 feet high and 18 feet wide. 1/2 hp opener. This gave us a couple feet along the sidewalls and down the middle. We built this building in 2014.

A couple years ago some friends came down from Wisconsin and parked on the driveway. They had some business for a couple days in Des Moines. The first night and second day, heavy rain and large hail were predicted. My wife Rita thought it would be prudent to put the guest 21 in the building to avoid damage. We moved the mower and a little bit of other stuff out of the way. Took about 10 minutes. Then I hooked up to our 21 and jacked it into the newly opened stall. I unhooked, and then put the guest trailer in the our usual stall for our trailer. Whole thing took about a half an hour.

Messaged our friends that their trailer was in the building to relieve angst. We did get hail and heavy rain but no damage.

Afterwards I took the photo you see before pulling the guest trailer out and back to the driveway. Always with the attitude “It can be done” I’ve jacked trailers around for over 60 years now. Hope this helps.
Iowa Dave

 

[Ron in BC]

nobody else wants your stuff.

I've come to the conclusion that I don't care about that. Until I'm no longer around I just-might-need that stuff.

Ron

 

[GinoandLinda]

I've come to the conclusion that I don't care about that. Until I'm no longer around I just-might-need that stuff.

Ron

That’s cool. Then it’s someone else’s problem. Nice.

 

[HABBERDABBER]

I've had to do 5 "death cleanings" of family and relatives the last 10 years. And the last one was a doozy, my bachelor uncle, who lived in the same house for 78 years. He was a machinist, woodworker, antique cash register collector, clock maker and owned a hardware store. Talk about having tools and vast amounts of nuts, bolts and hardware. 18 months of work, as I was his estate executor. Countless 3 hour drives as I live in the next state over.

Stuff does indeed become someone else's problem. A BIG problem, sometimes.

 

[emers382]

We made sure that our kids won't be stuck with too much of our "stuff" when we spent the summer purging before our move to BC. Being too late for garage sales and not wanting the hassle anyway I took six truckloads to our local second hand shop, and gave a lot of our stuff to our son including the trailer shelter (now housing his boat). Not being a skilled woodworker or for that matter not much using my hands I don't mind moving to a condo at this point in our lives. Now if only we could actually move into it, which will be sometime this winter (fire damage to the building) but spending the time at a cottage on a lake and a planned month long trip with the trailer to our daughter's and family in California.

 

[occer]

He who dies with the most toys wins. Sounds like Ron is in the lead.

I ran a small construction company, now retired. I was selling the big excavator. I invited my grand kids over to the construction yard to play with the excavator one last time. Elijah (5) was wide eyed getting to spin the tractor around walk it, and dig a hole with it. Elijah got to run the controls the whole time. He loved it, and I loved letting him, not something a lot of little kids get to do. As we got out of the tractor, Elijah looked around at all the stuff in the yard. He looked up at me and said, "I didn't know you owned a junk yard". I still laugh when I think about it. Out of the mouth of babes!

 

[Ron in BC]

That’s cool. Then it’s someone else’s problem. Nice.

Nah, the person who would have to deal with it is going to be very well taken care of and making a couple of phone calls to have a junk removal company come and clear out things is no big deal. The thing that I do realize is no one else is ever going to regard the stuff that I have with the same value that I have for it. Even my quite vast array of tools can go wherever. None of my nephews has ever shown the slightest interest in DIY. So it's keep it and from time-to-time go looking through boxes for something that's been out of sight for years and now I have a use for. Works for me.

Ron

 

[Iowa Dave]

Last night we had an emergency. A little four year old princess had a jewelry malfunction. Two fine nosed pliers were needed to close a tiny silver ring. I calmly left the room and went out to the car and returned to the house, bug out bag in hand. A 6LN vise grip and my Leatherman 300 and the job was done in a few seconds. Meltdown averted. Who needs two pairs of accessible pliers at all times? I do.
Like everyone else I know, I have spent thousands of hours raising kids. The payback will be their time spent disposing of my stuff after I’m gone. And they know it. Tough Love cleanup in the garage.
Don’t help, don’t get nothing. Simple
Iowa Dave

 

[HABBERDABBER]

"Nah, the person who would have to deal with it is going to be very well taken care of and making a couple of phone calls to have a junk removal company come and clear out things"

But that's YOUR GOOD junk stuff! Off to a landfill? Or dumpster? No way.
Hold onto my ankles, I'm going into that dumpster, going after those treasures.

 

[Donna D.]

"Nobody wants your stuff." I think it's past time to STOP making older people feel guilty for liking their stuff and wanting to keep it. Every time I read things like this, I feel like I'm being rushed toward death. It's MINE, I LIKE it, I WANT it. I will provide sufficient funds to my heirs to hire a cleaning service and multiple dumpsters. They can get rid of it all, if they so choose. In the meantime, leave me alone. PS: there's a big difference between memory items and hoarding....

 

[iamunique127]

We made sure that our kids won't be stuck with too much of our "stuff" when we spent the summer purging before our move to BC. Being too late for garage sales and not wanting the hassle anyway I took six truckloads to our local second hand shop, and gave a lot of our stuff to our son including the trailer shelter (now housing his boat). Not being a skilled woodworker or for that matter not much using my hands I don't mind moving to a condo at this point in our lives. Now if only we could actually move into it, which will be sometime this winter (fire damage to the building) but spending the time at a cottage on a lake and a planned month long trip with the trailer to our daughter's and family in California.

It sounds like you are making the most of it Adrian. Good for you.

 

[iamunique127]

Nah, the person who would have to deal with it is going to be very well taken care of and making a couple of phone calls to have a junk removal company come and clear out things is no big deal. The thing that I do realize is no one else is ever going to regard the stuff that I have with the same value that I have for it. Even my quite vast array of tools can go wherever. None of my nephews has ever shown the slightest interest in DIY. So it's keep it and from time-to-time go looking through boxes for something that's been out of sight for years and now I have a use for. Works for me.

Ron

Exactly the way I'm treating my stuff and my executor, too.