Jim Bennett
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Hey! I resemble that remark. ;DWhat did I say, often wrong.![]()
Hey! I resemble that remark. ;DWhat did I say, often wrong.![]()
I did send Sarah an email earlier asking if this meant that my Vin number would be changing. Her answer was no, the Vin would not be changing, and all my paperwork was still valid. That was a relief since we've already registered it and gotten our tags
Sorry to say, I have to agree with the sentiment that this was probably brought about by a U.S. manufacturer who sees a niche market that they can't control. Being a small business, artisanal soap maker, I see the rules and regulations that the Government continually tries to impose upon the small entrepreneur. I belong to a Guild which has an "advocate" whose sole responsibility is to talk to members of Congress in order to try and stymie useless bills whose only purpose is to put the the small soap maker out of business. And who is behind all of this legislation? Turns out it's entities like Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Revlon, etc.
Wouldn't surprise me if an entity like Thor forced Congress to review/revise their export rules for RVs. Guess I'm just the distrusting type ...
the scariest words in the English language were "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
Yep, no checking out B.C. or camping close to the Chilliwack mother ship... ever.
I assume this was meant to be "import" (not "export") rules, as exports from the U.S. are irrelevant to Escape and probably don't matter much even to Thor (who exports to Canada, but who cares about less than 10% of their business?).Wouldn't surprise me if an entity like Thor forced Congress to review/revise their export rules for RVs. Guess I'm just the distrusting type ...
Thor handles competitors by buying them, not by throwing government paperwork at them.Thor seams to be gobbling all RV's . Now they have Nest fiberglass. It is a possibility .
I agree. If the VIN of a trailer in progress does not need to be changed, the Vehicle Description Section of the VIN must be sufficiently descriptive. The rest of the VIN is clearly compliant with VIN rules, and always has been. Since Sarah specifically mentioned VIN Decoding, this appears to be entirely a matter of getting Escape Trailer Industries properly registered in the current NHTSA system.Sounds like escape just needs to get into the system so that the VIN numbers can decode correctly.
Good point, but at least the initial trip would be out... and what is posted in that page (which is an easy-to-read description, rather than the actual regulation) doesn't hint at any timing consideration.Not sure about the "ever" part. That hasn't been my experience in similar situations in other countries. True, if you're buying to export you have to get out of Dodge quickly but once the item has gone to another country and been registered there the clock is reset. You can then re-enter the original country.
It would surprise me if anyone at Thor even noticed that there are travel trailers made in Canada, let alone care about them enough as competition to lobby for obstructive legislation. The entire output of travel trailers of all Canadian manufacturers is nothing compared to Thor's own output, and even more insignificant compared to the total of U.S. manufacturers.
Back to my earlier comment - if you're going to spent money to take someone out, there are options...
Thor handles competitors by buying them, not by throwing government paperwork at them.![]()
Hi: CADreamin... I'm with you on this one!!! Coincidence that this happens just after Thor/Airstream bought Nest. AlfSorry to say, I have to agree with the sentiment that this was probably brought about by a U.S. manufacturer who sees a niche market that they can't control. Being a small business, artisanal soap maker, I see the rules and regulations that the Government continually tries to impose upon the small entrepreneur. I belong to a Guild which has an "advocate" whose sole responsibility is to talk to members of Congress in order to try and stymie useless bills whose only purpose is to put the the small soap maker out of business. And who is behind all of this legislation? Turns out it's entities like Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Revlon, etc.
Wouldn't surprise me if an entity like Thor forced Congress to review/revise their export rules for RVs. Guess I'm just the distrusting type ...
You can blame that muckraker rbryan4 in post #53 Pat. He started it.
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I know Brian but I think the exchange is in the mix and why not make it harder on them succeeding . Making life miserable . Big business does not have a conscience . I know this is all conspiracy theories .don't you get a warning first ? PatI assume this was meant to be "import" (not "export") rules, as exports from the U.S. are irrelevant to Escape and probably don't matter much even to Thor (who exports to Canada, but who cares about less than 10% of their business?).
It would surprise me if anyone at Thor even noticed that there are travel trailers made in Canada, let alone care about them enough as competition to lobby for obstructive legislation which would probably backfire on them anyway. The entire output of travel trailers of all Canadian manufacturers is nothing compared to Thor's own output, and even more insignificant compared to the total of U.S. manufacturers.
Back to my earlier comment - if you're going to spent money to take someone out, there are options...
Thor handles competitors by buying them, not by throwing government paperwork at them.![]()
I know Brian but I think the exchange is in the mix ... Pat
The purchase of Nest was probably in the works for months before it was announced on 2016 April 01, but the procedural changes at NHTSA must have been started many months before that. Yes, it is truly a coincidence.Coincidence that this happens just after Thor/Airstream bought Nest.