Jim Bennett
Senior Member
Ban 'im! ;DYou can blame that muckraker rbryan4 in post #53 Pat. He started it.
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Ban 'im! ;DYou can blame that muckraker rbryan4 in post #53 Pat. He started it.
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If all Canadian RV manufacturers gave away their product free to anyone wanting one in the U.S., and ran at their maximum capacity to meet the demand, and all Canadians stopped buying any RVs built in the U.S. (which would nearly mean no new RVs in Canada), the total effect at Thor wouldn't be much more than a blip in sales. Just not much motivation there...I know Brian but I think the exchange is in the mix and why not make it harder on them succeeding . Making life miserable . Big business does not have a conscience . I know this is all conspiracy theories .
It would surprise me if anyone at Thor even noticed that there are travel trailers made in Canada, let alone care about them enough as competition to lobby for obstructive legislation which would probably backfire on them anyway. The entire output of travel trailers of all Canadian manufacturers is nothing compared to Thor's own output, and even more insignificant compared to the total of U.S. manufacturers.
Aside from the fact that Escape is not of significance to any large RV manufacturer, there's the problem that Escape isn't being asked to do anything special - they just need to follow the same rules and processes as everyone else. In fact, small vehicle manufacturers such as Escape get some favourable treatment, although probably nothing of significance for trailers.Unfortunately, corporations have learned that it's best to stifle the small business before it becomes a large business with a significant following. And, if you can't buy them out, get the Government to regulate them to death.
Really? With modern systems, processing an import means looking the product up in a database, and if the database isn't there then the problem is apparent. In this case, the VIN of each imported trailer should be checked, and for an Escape that check fails (as described in post #14). No snitch needed!The Government's edict may be a legitimate one, but it took someone to point out to them that Escape, for one, should be scrutinized.
What's surprising? A corporation can't think, or feel, or do anything else like that. It can have rules which encode a set of values or priorities, the people operating it can follow them or not, and together they create a social environment (currently called a "corporate culture") which encourages certain behaviours (such as following the rules or not), and some might call that a corporate conscience... but in fact it all boils down to the actions of individuals. A company can't feel guilty about doing something it knows is bad, because it can't feel or know; the people can feel guilty (or not) because they know (or don't know) that what they're doing is wrong.I don't agree on the conscience piece Brian. That is an absolute and am a little surprised to see it.
If that's the case, how do you explain stuff that happened ( whatever that was ) when the Canadian dollar was worth $1.12 US?
Unfortunately, corporations have learned that it's best to stifle the small business before it becomes a large business with a significant following. And, if you can't buy them out, get the Government to regulate them to death. The Government's edict may be a legitimate one, but it took someone to point out to them that Escape, for one, should be scrutinized.
Let's hope the issue is quickly resolved and the matter becomes a thing of the past.
I really can't get my head wrapped around this and don't know that I want to.
All I can think about is how many people have waited a year, booked time off work and out of their lives a long way out to make the exciting trip to go to Chilliwack and pick up their new Escape in the next two months or were expecting delivery. Now they are being told they can't come and get their trailer they've been waiting for almost a year and deliveries are on hold. I am so very sorry that this has happened to the folks waiting for their trailers pickup/delivery and just feel so sad for everyone that will be affected. What an absolute bummer.....
Today would have been our orientation for our new 2017 model 21. It was completed on Monday, July 18th. Fortunately, because of busy schedules, we decided to have it delivered to New York.
Of course, it is a real disappointment that we will not be receiving our trailer when we expected. If it truly does take eight weeks to start shipments again, our attendance at the Niagara Wine Escape may be in jeopardy. That would be disheartening.
On the positive side, if We had decided to pick the trailer up, we could be in Chilliwack, BC today. We would have traveled 2,700 miles, one way, and had no way to bring the trailer home. It would have been a trip for nothing. We would be making plans to return home empty handed and repeating the entire trip eight weeks later.
Peter & Nancy Styer
Frewsburg, NY
Hi: pstyer... I certainly understand your predicament. Never would have thought this "Road block" could have been thrown up so quickly to stymie your trailer delivery. As a matter of fact I have never seen a thread go from 0 to 100 as fast this one has. I only hope the "Smoke and mirrors" clears up quickly for all involved!!! AlfToday would have been our orientation for our new 2017 model 21. It was completed on Monday, July 18th. Fortunately, because of busy schedules, we decided to have it delivered to New York.
Of course, it is a real disappointment that we will not be receiving our trailer when we expected. If it truly does take eight weeks to start shipments again, our attendance at the Niagara Wine Escape may be in jeopardy. That would be disheartening.
On the positive side, if We had decided to pick the trailer up, we could be in Chilliwack, BC today. We would have traveled 2,700 miles, one way, and had no way to bring the trailer home. It would have been a trip for nothing. We would be making plans to return home empty handed and repeating the entire trip eight weeks later.
Peter & Nancy Styer
Frewsburg, NY
So sorry for all you potential Escape owners waiting for your campers and ETI for this delay.Hopefully, this will be resolved soon.