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Old 12-14-2016, 12:10 AM   #1
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2017 Ford F150 Pro Trailer Backup Assist

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Old 12-14-2016, 12:51 AM   #2
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Well, that sucks. I thought it was going to back the trailer for me. All they have done is move the control from the steering wheel to a knob.
The backup camera only sees the front of the trailer. Wonder if there is an alarm if you run over a kid on a bike.
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Well, that sucks. I thought it was going to back the trailer for me. All they have done is move the control from the steering wheel to a knob.
The backup camera only sees the front of the trailer. Wonder if there is an alarm if you run over a kid on a bike.
I've seen it demonstrated Glenn. Works well. Same rules apply of course when backing - you still need to make sure it's clear, and using a spotter is always a good idea. But, it knows your geometry based on the trailer size you input, and turning the knob in the direction you want the trailer to go is far easier for most people. Don't have it of course on my 2015, but I'm looking forward to trying it when I trade in a couple years.
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Could it do 5th wheels?
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:43 AM   #5
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It seems very gimmicky to me, but tricked up vehicles do appeal to many. I prefer the learn to drive method where I have full control, rather than have a vehicle do the driving for me.

I guess I just don't understand how a single camera on the center of a tailgate can see beyond the trailer like proper mirrors do. There just seems to be too much margin for error. I guess until I actually try one.............

I would challenge anyone with one of these to a reversing competition, and see who gets the trailer spotted first.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:24 AM   #6
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I still try to start the newer cars with the key and my Dodge Ram with no steering column gear selector with the drive gear selector on a dash mounted dial is still a learning process, but steering from the same dial seems very awkward.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:30 AM   #7
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while the concept is interesting, not really excited about the vehicle computer being able to take control of the steering..especially when you don't want it too and it decides it wants to "simply because it can" !
its bad enough giving it control of the accelerator...and no, don't use cruise control either even though its been on the last four vehicles owned

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Old 12-14-2016, 09:59 AM   #8
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No 5th-wheel assist

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Could it do 5th wheels?
Unfortunately no on 5th-wheels. We picked up our 2017 F150 on Friday and during the orientation, the salesman was so exited telling us about how much we would love the backup assist and showed us the special manual explaining its use. When we got home, Rosemary showed me the big X-out symbol on a 5th-wheel symbol on the manual's 2nd page. My guess is that having the camera in the tailgate makes it too close to the trailer to get the angles to make the system work.

Now scrambling to get the B&W Turnover and the Andersen Ultimate installed to head south on Monday. Getting bed-liner sprayed in today.
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:15 AM   #9
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Now scrambling to get the B&W Turnover and the Andersen Ultimate installed to head south on Monday. Getting bed-liner sprayed in today.
Excellent, we leave on the 27th.
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Saw it demonstrated once at a farm show in Georgia. You have to stick a black & white checkerboard patch on the trailer's tongue (you can get a brief glimpse of it at 47 seconds into the promo video in post #1, curb side of tongue). Then you have to go through a procedure to calibrate the tailgate camera to the checkerboard patch (I think the computer will store calibrations of up to 10 different trailers.) Then the camera transmits it's view of the patch to the computer, which the computer then uses to determine TV to TT angle coordinates to aid in navigating backwards. Interesting idea, but I think the real advantage is that they have made the direction you turn the knob while looking into the display more intuitive to most people's brains compared to looking in a mirror and then your brain trying to figure out in reverse which way to turn the steering wheel. My wife has learned to put her hands on the bottom of the steering wheel when backing a trailer, and then when looking in the mirror, the back of the trailer will go the same direction as her hands. Low tech, but works just as well.....
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